I applied back in june 14.... im US applicant.... filled with 1st choice in USA and 2nd in HK....... However, today is the day suppose to hear anything, but negative


anyone who is US applicant hear anything yet?

may I ask you some questions~?
 

1. I visited FTA website in Adelaide and I was surprised that CX cadets go through 3 1/2 years of Flight Instructor..what is that??
and I want to know more about Cadet programme training process..

2. How many CX cadet pilot graduates are there among CPP? and usually, how many people are there in each CX cadet pilot class?

3. How does captains or FOs think of second officers?

4. How long does it take to become a captain after being cleared as a SO?

Thank you :) :ok:

ineed, what is all this about being an instructor for three years? first i've heard of this??

"the cadets complete an instructor’s course with FTA and stay at FTA for 3 and half years as instructors before joining the Airline"

Company News – CXL1 Graduation | Flight Training Adelaide

indeed, what is all this about spending 3 years as a flight instructor first? first i've heard of it?

"Under this scheme, upon completion the training course, the cadets complete an instructor’s course with FTA and stay at FTA for 3 and half years as instructors before joining the Airline."

Company News – CXL1 Graduation | Flight Training Adelaide

cheers

The course mentioned on the FTA website is a different program to the CPP. Those of us applying directly for the CPP through Cathay will not be spending time as an instructor if successful.

It is run through FTA and I believe is only open to those with the right to work in Oz.

Its been 10 weeks for me. Ive nearly lost all hope. IM pretty sure I would have got a response by now and I cant reapply cause my 'appplication is still being processed' Lets hope that No news=good news..?! :confused:

CX HR contact details
 

Does anybody have an email address on which to contact the HR/Recruitment team at Cathay?

tha cx cadet pilot program mentions its requirements that either the cadet should have done schooling in HK or should hold a diploma or degree(nationality no bar) .
But I have a little question.
since i am doing a four year degree course can I apply for the cadetship with my result marksheets of 7 semesters while I wait for my 8th semester result & its marksheet???
pls reply as soon as possible!!!!

HI,

I am currently a Canadian Citizen and only legally allowed to work in Canada. Am I eligible for the cadet program?

yes its open to all nationalities

When is the closing date for applicants?

I just graduated with a flying degree, planning to apply for CPP in CX, but I still have my graduation certificates and license (currently with CPL only, no multi/IR and will completed in a few months) to fix and probably will get done before the end of this year. Shall I file my application now or I have to do it after all things get done? I wonder if I would missed the opening this year. Hope to read some advise from any of you. Thank you.

Do not apply until you have your degree and final academic record in your hands. It's not worth the risk mate.

Morning Folks

Anyone done the initial interview with cathay cadet programe?? If so what does it entail??

Thanks

Good day kind folks,

I'd like to know what anyone here thinks the chances are, of someone like myself from a 'remote' corner of the world being selected for the CX CPP. I hail from the 3rd largest rock in the caribbean, aka Jamaica and much like everyone else here, has a deep passion for aviation. I did my PPL in Jamaica and then CPL/IR(single) and CFI in miami. I have both FAA and JCAA licenses and about 330TT. No Multi/IR yet. I only applied Nov 14 so I suppose I'm in for a bit of a wait. I am curious to find out my chances as I also applied to EY last year and didn't get so much as a whisper of succesful/unsuccesful. I am willing to go globetrotting anywhere on the planet so long as I get the chance!

Really appreciate any/all responses mates.:ok:

A few answers...
 

Will try to shed light on a few questions, but firstly, anyone actually interested in the program should have a thorough read of the company's website before posting the most basic questions. Much can be answered there!

Cathay Pacific - Careers : Careers Home

Applicants are welcome from all parts of the world, Jamaicans included :)

Hong Kong ID is no longer a requirement. So, by extension, the company is willing to sponsor you for HK employment, should you be successful in the course.

There is no deadline for the program, intake is continuous (as far as I'm aware).

You will receive a reply to your application, either way. However, due to the lifting of HKID restrictions, the ladies/gents in the office are most likely swamped with new applications. Be patient, although I know it's difficult to wait. If you haven't received a reply within a reasonable time (ie: the 8weeks mentioned on the website), do the sensible thing and send a polite email as a follow-up.

Flight experience is not required (see website!). However, those with a full set of licences already (ie: cpl/multi/ir), might be considered too experienced for the program (not sure about this though, sorry).

As for academic credentials, they are listed as requirements. I suspect you must have them prior to application. Again, please see the website for details.

Most of all, to those of you interested, good luck! If aviation really is a passion of yours, you'll find a way to end up in a cockpit if you're determined enough, CX or not!

Hey blue_side_up, thanks for the reply brother and "Jamaicans included" is a bit re-assuring :)

I hope Im not 'overqualified' as that's what probably ruled me out of the EY CPP.I have all the educational reqs too. I have searched the threads and read of similarly/more so qualified applicants being given interviews so Im hopeful yet. My only real concern I guess you could say is that bit about 'Geographic area'. I have Hong Kong as first pref. and the US as second.

I know of quite a bit of Jamaicans that are with the likes of EK, EY and QR to name a few, however they got there via valuable experience gained from the national carrier JM which unfortunately for me is going out of biz it seems.

I'm hopeful though and very positive and like you said, I'm aiming to get to the flight deck one way or another. :ok:

hey - some good comments and info from blue_side_up!

I especially agree with the point about being patient before sending in a follow-up email.....remember to look at the bigger picture and realize that the applicant pool went from just HKID card holders to the WHOLE world so don't worry too much if you don't get a response right away....

with the point about being "over qualified" - I just wanted to share my perspective on that. I don't think they will deny entry to the program to anyone purely because you are "overqualified" - as a matter of fact, I think flight experience is valuable as it shows you have strong enough of an interest to dedicate your resources to flying...I think the more important thing here is your attitude towards your own experiences....

remember, CX sends their cadets to learn from the basics...and each flight school may teach different things...so I think its important to show that you are open and willing to learn alongside your peers and be willing to re-learn what you may already know and to learn and accept technique/SOP/theory which may contradict what you already know.....

just wanted to share my thoughts on that...all the best!

"remember, CX sends their cadets to learn from the basics...and each flight school may teach different things...so I think its important to show that you are open and willing to learn alongside your peers and be willing to re-learn what you may already know and to learn and accept technique/SOP/theory which may contradict what you already know....."

I believe you're right that showing the willingness to re-learn and perhaps even more important 're-inforce' what has already been learned, is a valuable asset.

Learning the basics...
 

You're both correct about re-learning. For any airline, two of the main goals of a cadet program are a guaranteed supply and a guaranteed quality. An airline invests in you with the absolute expectation that you will exit the other end of the course, having met or exceeded the requirements, and in be their image of an aviator.

Regarding overqualified, perhaps I should have been more specific. Should your experience nearly, or positively, qualify you for a position as a Second Officer, then I highly doubt whether one would be accepted as a Cadet.

Good luck all!

Hi all,

I know this has already been posted somewhere but i cant seem to find out if during the cadet program you are paid? i know they pay for the training but are you given a weekly/monthly wage or are we self sufficient during training and whilst waiting to be checked to line?

nt.pilot
 

I believe cadets are each given an allowance of AUD$100 per week during their time in ADL, with FTA providing both accomodation and food.

I'm not sure what they are paid after finishing cadet training but before being checked-to-line in CX. Perhaps someone else could fill you in.

currently as it stands, cadets get paid an "allowance" in addition to all the costs involved with your training, food and accommodation.

Further, graduated cadets begin earning a SALARY as soon as they start with CX (i.e. before being checked to the line).

Hope this helps.

flapsupdown

That is usually the case except all current cadets who graduate from Adelaide are going into the hold file. While there they receive nothing but must be immediately available once called up. Currently there is no recruitment and none is scheduled for 2010 either.

404 Titan
 

Ouch, just when I was about to submit an application. So is there no point in applying now?

Etlien

The CP group who are about to graduate have been told (6 months ago) to expect a 12 month wait and this hasn't changed therefore no recruiting for 2010 is pretty certain. CP 31/32 know this and are prepared.

When CP36 starts in Dec 14 (who were told at interviews in September/October to expect a 3-6 month wait), there will be 6 CP groups at FTA with just over 50 cadets. CP 36 will graduate in Jan of 2011 with an expected start date in late summer, early autumn with start dates for the other CP31-35 taking place earlier that year.

CPP interviews are still ongoing around the world and CX is now back in Australia for a third time in 6 months.

So you do the maths. The 6th Floor Girls aren't travelling the world just to go shopping whilst putting Cadet Pilots on the shelves for an indefinite period of time!

betpump5
 

See, this is what confuses me. I have been reading on here about how interviews are still going on, yet recruiting for 2010 is not happening. What dos recruiting not happening mean? Are they not sending anyone down to FTA? Are they not putting CP classes together? Are they not taking anymore online applications? This is why I wonder if I should send an application in.

From the gist of your reply, I assume they are at least still taking applications. Am I right?

betbump5
 

Your last response here is a bit of concern...since I was interviewed in october and was not advised there would be a 3 to 5 months delay. I understand this is a rumours forum but if what you're saying is true then what happens to the backlog of pilots that will start CP36 onwards during that time? Do they get to sign a contract with assurance of position after the 60 week training or do they go back home (whichever country that may be) and wait for the phone call?

Thanks for your input.
W

As far as I know, applications and interviews for cadets are still ongoing, with classes being put together and shipped off to Adelaide. However as betpump5 has mentioned, cadets currently training in Adelaide must expect to wait 6-12 months after graduation before officially joining the company and starting ground school.

I don't think Cathay will guarantee that you will eventually join the company, just like the other Direct Entry hopefuls you will end up in the holding file. But personally I also tend to believe that, provided you are willing to wait, CX won't give up on you either - especially after spending so much money on your training.

I'm still going to apply, even if it means waiting for a job 6-12 months after leaving Adelaide. It is a small price to pay.

Just want to clarify a few things...

Interviews are still ongoing for the CPP. Also, classes are continually formed and shipped to Adelaide.

The "wait" period that people refer to is the time between graduating from FTA and starting at Cathay Pacific. There may be a wait after you graduate from the CPP but there is no reason why you won't eventually get hired (as long as you performed up to standard throughout your time at FTA).

When CX needs more SOs, the graduated cadets will be the first in line.

flapsupdown,

Is that a fact? Where did you hear that from?

flapsupdown
 

So the no recruitment in 2010 just refers to no hiring of people graduating from FTA?

I thought my message was crystal clear and I didn't expect to get that many queries afterwards but let me try and answer some of the concerns.

Firstly "no recruiting" in 2010 means the graduated CP 31/32 cadets who are close to graduating will not be given their strart date at CX in 2010. This is obvisouly also true for CP 33-35 who are expected to graduate that year - CP36 should graduate end of January 2011.

The good news is that due to the predicted demand of cadet pilots, the CP batches have been given differing wait times. CP31=12 months and CP36=3-6 months. This is obvioulsy good news.

Holdmetight,

Flapsupdown is obvioulsy correct. When the demand for SOs increase, the grduated cadets will be first in line. Where else will we get them from? And there will be an abundance of them but if by some mircale we don't have enough, then there will still be a few poor sods swimming in the DESO pool to be plucked when needed.

Wings1123

The only contract you sign is the one saying you will be given 60 weeks traning. The contract does not say you will be given a position at CX. You do the 60 weeks, graduate, have your photo taken then you go back to wherever you came from or wherever you want to go and wait for the phonecall.

I hope this answers any concerns. FYI I heard that there was a little bit of a rush last week with the 6th floor trying to get people on the CP36 course. In the end, only 11 cadets made it rather than the hoped for 16. There was a worrying period when only 6 or so cadets had made it through.

Like I said, the girls aren't travelling the world just to go shopping whilst puting cadets on the shelf. Likewise CX wont be too keen on spending all this money on cadets only for them to be out of action for 2 years while they wait for a start date.

betpump5
 

Thanks for the insight.

Yes, as a Cathay Cadet you will undergo the same training as all other cadets. However, once in a while they offer the Short Course in which case you wouldn't be doing the whole 14 months. Nonetheless, the "normal" cadet program requires all cadets to undergo the same training regardless of experience...which makes sense since most the exams you will be sitting are issued by the HKCAD.

If no jobs are available upon graduation, you just wait. Yes, you are entitled to gin employment elsewhere but must be ready to start immediately.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe other poster(s) have mentioned that the 6 year employment 'bond' is not actually binding since it is illegal in Hong Kong, meaning you don't have to go back to CX when they call you if you're at another airline/job.

Just out of curiosity, have any cadets who passed the interviews actually started flight school in Adelaide?

My main reason for asking is that I am still waiting for an invite to the first interview, and have another job offer which I'm planning to take up in the mean while. Any clue how long the actual interview process takes?

I would advise that if you can snag another Job for now then go with it for sure. You have nothing to lose by accepting the job whereas you might "lose out" on that job in the event that you don't make it through the interview selection to cadet training. As always in aviation have a plan B :ok:

I'm currently 4weeks down, 4 to go to the 8week threshold since application. :D

Mine took 10 weeks to come back.

How long after your initial interview do you get a reply advising you of the outcome. I was told a week, but that has now passed.

Im in the same boat as you Kiwiflyer, had my interview in Auckland last week. Im guessing theyll call or email tomorrow mate. Good luck dude