Logging time as a Second Officer
 

Happyguy99, that is some impressive research you have done there. Thanks a lot for that, it is easy to see why they picked you above everyone else, if you have gone to pains to find information of that detail.

As far as I know, SOs are given a P2X rating on the aircraft they fly. The training that SOs are given for their P2X rating includes everything a new FO would receive, except they are not given base training (actual takeoff and landing training in the real aircraft), since they are only expected/allowed to operate at altitudes of 10,000ft or above. As such, the time they log while flying is called P2X time, and there is a specific column in the HKCAD-issued logbook for this. P2X time is practically useless when used to apply for jobs in other major airlines, as most of them do not recognize SO/P2X time as practical flying experience.

For interest, FOs and CNs possess P1 ratings, which allows you to log some actual time that is considered real flying experience by the other big boys in the aviation world.

This is as far as I can go. If anyone knows more or knows better, please feel free to correct or update.

UPDATE:
Just found something on how much in-seat time you log when flying as an SO.

In seat time amounts to approximately:
(flight time - 1.5 hours) divided by 2 for an ultra-long haul flight (4 crew), and (flight time - 1.5 hours) times two thirds for a three-crew flight.

Hi guys....I need some information from you.

I applied last july for this cadet pilot, but since then no answer.
If i remember correctly, I chose for an italian or uk location for the selection.

in november I contacted them and they said that they will contact me when the selected location became available for the selection....but no answer yet.

As i can read from this thread ,there is a selection in progress...and now:

why they don't contact me?
is there any italian guys doing the selection?
may I contact them now and tell them if i can change location??


thanks to everyone:ok::ok:

happyguy99,
Thanks a lot on that info. They were more than enough for me. Many thanks!

I applied for CPP at 5th of march and I wake up everyday with the hope to receive a call from CX. I'm getting boring on this and I want to go through the interview as soon as possible. Any idea on how can I find out the approximate date for interview?! I know it may be a funny question but this makes me cry everyday !!!!

Hey guys!

For those waiting a long time with no reply from CX, try sending them an e-mail. More often than not, they will reply back. Look on PILOT CAREER CENTER - Latest Pilot Jobs, Pilot Resume / Pilot CV Design, Interview Preps and more... for contact details.

Best of luck in your career endeavors!

guybrush

Any words of wisdom or internet links that would help for attending Phase 2/3 in HK? Im slightly worried about this math test everyone has been talking about as thats not a strong point for me.

Cheers

auto--pilot
 

Hey there. Sorry I am not at stage 2 yet, going to stage 1b on the 15th. I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing your stage 1 experiences. I'm a little nervous about the interview and would like all the help I could get (I'm sure others agree).

As far as stage 2 I've heard that the math test is general math questions and if you can do quick subtraction and addition you should be alright. However, it does include some graph problems which I heard are a little difficult and you have to get the first question right to get the rest of them correct.

When is your stage 2? I want to see if its close at all to the stage 1 interview.

Stage 2 math test
 

The questions you will find in the Stage 2 math test are quite similar to those used in typical management graduate jobs, with data interpretation and arithmetic-based questions. These are all mathematically very simple but often very tedious. You will be given a pencil and paper, and asked to do the test on a computer screen. The test is made of 30 MC questions, each question with 16 possible answers. There is one graph/scenario for every 4 questions.

Numeric

Have a look at the link for an idea of what to expect. The actual questions in the Cathay test are harder though. I found it better to read the questions first, then reading the information provided in the scenario to solve them. Don't hesitate to move on if you're not sure of how to solve a problem.

You can buy or borrow some books that are dedicated towards training people for numerical aptitude tests, which usually have a variety of useful exercises in them. Back in my day, I also did some GMAT questions to get my brain into gear. Just keep your cool and do your best, and let Cathay decide everything else. Good luck!

what about the european guys??....so far, I ve have seen only people from USA and Canada..

Best of luck for those already under screening:ok:

Sample tests
 

Thanks holdmetight for the sample questions.

To everyone going for stage 1A and 2. I was searching the web and stumbled accross a very old PPrunes forum from 2006 for people who were practicing for their interviews. I found links to some aptitude tests that are similar to the ones from cathay.

Here is the Grammar test which is very similar to cathay's, except for one of the tests imagine someone speaking the words and you are guessing which word they are saying.
http://elc.polyu.edu.hk/advdicts/web...t_expt2htm.htm

This next test is a reflex tester. It's not a cathay test, but in one of the games for cathay, shoot the bandit, you have to respond as quickly as you can. You have 1.5 sec to decide if you want to shoot down an enemy plane. This reflex test is a fun way to get ready for it. These games are just more fun to play than anything else.
The Reflex Tester
Reflex

This test is just plain silly, but sadly is, in its own way, similar to one of the cathay tests. There is an aptitude test where you have to keep a cross inside of a box using the rudder pedals and joystick. The computer, which is simulating changing wind direction, is constantly trying to push you outside of the box in different directions. Your job is to keep correcting it. This game is funny, but is the same principle. Enjoy it. The Pissing Game, The Pissing, Pissing game on net, Online The Pissing Game Coolbuddy.com

This is the link to the forum I got these games from if you want to take a look.
Sample Aptitude Test for CX cadet & 'Cadet' (Merged).

Remember don't take everything to seriously. Designed to be funny, but it relates.

I sent an email to CPP group and asked them about the possible interview date, I also wrote them I'm ready to go and do the interview in other cities.

But they just said my application is not confirmed yet and let me know when they got the confirmation!
They said noting regarding the change of interview location.

Still need to wait, now I understand why they say Aviation in Patience!

Any info.on the CX initial interview in Kuala Lumpur ? Please share some info. on the interview and written test(JKI and reasoning test) Thank you.

Hong Kong Medical Cert
 

Hey guys,

I was wondering if anyone knows about this medical cert they asked during the application. I remember them asking if i held a hong kong medical cert which proclaims one to be medically fit. I said no as I've never been to Hong Kong. Does this make a difference? help me out here yeah... thanks guys

avis03
 

I don't think it makes a difference, if you already hold the HKCAD medical then great, if not then they will arrange a medical examination for you when the time comes.

Thank you so much for your reply!!!! :)

hey guys i am new to this forum but have been reading since page 1. anyways i applied in early march and was wondering how long it takes for them to respond to stage 1 interview for first preference in HK?

i randomly chose HK as my first preference as i didn't know that they do interviews outside HK lol. anyways i heard that choosing HK as your first preference my get you an interview sooner? is that true?

thanks guys much appreciated. :)

CX cadet Pilot- appreciate information
 

Hi happyguy99,

It's very encouraging to hear of your success with Cathay. I am also in your boat in terms of age. Am 30 this year. I have applied via thier online application in january but have not hear anything from them.

I think i should srop them a call or at least a mail. Given my age I probably don't have much time to waste. Am wondering if you could help me out with CX recruitment contact (number, e-mail) since you are already in contact?

Thanks so much in advance. happyguy99 and wish you all the success ate stage 4.

so after 6 years contract.. you wont be able to be a cathay pacific pilot?

I applied july 09 and still waiting for an asnwer (for italy or england as location)....I don't know how they choose people to interview,maybe if you choose,you will get more chance to start sooner!
hope for you! :ok:

Hi wood_terence

Regarding your application in January 2010, it will take them time to go through all the applications from your geographic region to decide on who they will interview. The interviews will then be conducted when they are next in your region. From my point of view this is how it appears the recruitment team work. I applied first half 2009 and first heard from the recruitment team almost 6 months later.

If I were you I would not put my life on hold just in case they call. If you want to be a pilot, I encourage you to find a way on your own steam - as the saying goes 'where there's a will there's a way.' If in the meantime you do get an interview then fantastic.

Here is the contact details for the recruitment team you requested:

email: [email protected]

I hope this information is useful, if you have any other questions - feel free!

happyguy99

Anyone here applied for Locations Dubai and Johannesburg and still wait to hear from CX?

And if yes please tell us your application date.

Thanks alot

Does Cathay let the candidates know if they are not successful in stage 1?
or does it just end there like with the applications?

They send rejection e-mails to people who don't make it past Stage 1.

What to expect after attending the initial interview
 

Thanks.
I'll keep waiting then.

Is it just me or is recruitment being slowed down? It seems less people are talking about getting stage 1 calls. E.g. London stage 1 interviews were in early Sept/late Nov/early Feb.

CX's 2009 Annual Report states they are looking to fill an extra 36 places in 2010. With CP38 (correct me if i'm wrong) starting in May, that leaves it down to about 26 places remaining for the year.

StandardToaster

Do you mean they're going to start interviewing in May 2010?
I didn't get what you mean about CP38? Could you please explain it to me?

Thanks

In May the next batch of successful applicants will start in Adelaide. Each training group is given a 'code'. The next code should be CP38 i.e. the 38th group.

so people interviewed in September and late November didn't get a reply yet?

Test prep
 

Thanks for the earlier reply regarding preparing for the tests! I have a feeling that if anything is going to affect me during Phase 2 (hopefully 3 as well) will be the aptitude/numeracy exams.

I have found what I think is a useful website to prep for these, those who have done the exams with Cathay, are the exams on this site similar to what I can expect?

How to pass aptitude tests with example tests

Thanks

RedsunsDriver
 

No, what i mean is are they slowing down recruitment since London interviews have been every 2 months at least. Now with May approaching and nobody mentioning being called for interviews, it looks like it's the case.

quick question for application
 

quick question, what am I supposed to put down for this part in the application? I graduated h.s in the United States. I put down my SAT scores, but it says I need to write down the results for all subjects or something like that.. Any ideas??

Secondary Education Results *

Provide details of secondary education qualifications obtained (e.g. HKCEE, HKALE, GCSE, GCE A Level, IB, OAC, HSC etc.), listing ALL subjects and results

thanks

Does anybody know when is the round of interviews? I made the application but I'd like to know when are they going to start interviews again? Please if anybody has an idea on that share it with me.

Cheers

StandardToaster,

yea, I don't think they have resumed the London interviews yet. (at least that's what I am hoping for anyway)

I applied in Nov 09, still nothing. You?

I was wondering, when is the next stage 1 interview in Australia? I heard from someone that there is one coming up soon, does anyone know when it is or is going to it?

i heard it's may apparently

Si3nna,

I'm assuming you are from HKG? Locals who have never applied before seem to get replies rather quickly, say within 1-2 months. Locals who are re-applying seem to wait much longer than that... an estimate of 6 months would be likely. So which category do you fall into?

Oversea with permanent HKID - never applied before. Chose London as first choice.

Hey there,

I applied early january '10. If there are any other AUSTRALIAN applicants on here who would like to touch base. feel free to sling me a PM.

Si3nna
 

I know it sounds pretty obvious and is easier said than done, but choosing HKG as your interview location could probably land you an interview much quicker. I have a few friends who are locals and were applying for the first time, all of them were invited for interviews within 1-2 months of applying.

Si3nna
 

I applied early this year. My friend applied in October and got the Feb interview in London.

"Oversea with permanent HKID - never applied before. Chose London as first choice." Me too :D