@ flying.monkeyz
 

oh does that mean future obs batches will only be made from the cadets who have cleared with their medicals and waiting??

wait and see what happens in the second half of the year i guess :suspect:

Life sucks...

anyone here can recommend a flying school instead? doesnt seem like sia is hiring any new pilots anytime soon.. really considering getting my own training..

In Singapore, there's STAA

ST Aerospace: Creating Value for You — Worldwide

In Msia, there's HMA, MFA and APFT

HM Aerospace Sdn Bhd
The Malaysian Flying Academy, Professional Flight Training, Malacca, Malaysia
Asia Pacific Flight Training - Home

Further up in Thailand, there's a few too, Googled for one, Sriracha Flight School

Learn To Fly in Thailand at our Flight Training School - Pilots License & Ground School - Sriracha Aviation Co.
PPL: THB 250,000 3months
CPL: THB 2,000,000 52weeks

check this out guys..
 

ST Aerospace: Creating Value for You — Worldwide


i wonder if tiger airways will take 100 cadets which they advertised last year.

wow.. thanks stallone! just what i was looking for..

Still no clue whether they'd open up? It'll help tremendously if it is confirmed they are not opening this year. Guys like silenkitten can go ahead and sign up for private training too

Seems like Tiger Airways is really keeping to what they say. A year ago, they were saying that they will be planning to train 100 new pilots every year for the next 3 years. A year later, they have signed a deal with ST Aerospace to train their pilots. Sounds like they are keeping to it and most probably going to start it soon. Just wondering if it would be like the Jetstar program where one has to pay the fees involved? Let's see how it goes.

yes, definitely have to pay. Currently it's $214 as stated in the website

$214 is just for the application fee into ST Aerospace as a private candidate right Stallone? I did asked St Aerospace how much does the entire training cost and it is about $141,000. Just wondering if Tiger airways will accept potential people as their cadets but will be bonded to the airline for a period of time and they pay a much subsidised rate.

yeap application fee, to conduct the interviews, aptitude tests etc etc

Well, $141k is cheaper than the $200k of CTC/OAA used by Jetstar. However, STAA might be training u in the MPL route, which is maybe why it's cheaper. :suspect:

Bond not very sure, i think more info will be with STAA.. Wait for the announcement from them seeking for cadets then..

I'm not a cadet. Never was one, and don't really intend to be one as well.

With regards to what happens once a candidate is selected, they go for a 2-week OBS at Lumut (used to be 3 weeks but has since been trimmed). After that cadets go for Ground School for about 6 - 7 months, covering all ATPL subjects. Once they've passed the exams they move on to flight training, starting with Seletar. Duration really varies as it is affected by all sorts of factors e.g. weather, aircraft serviceability, instructor availability, number of cadets in flight training stage... etc etc etc. Anyway the cadets are to complete 3 solo flights in Seletar within 15 hours. Once they complete that then they move on to Jandakot in Perth to complete the remaining part of CPL/IR, which takes about 1 - 1.5 years. For SilkAir / SIA Cargo cadets, they then come back and start their type-rating course. For SIA Cadets they move on to Maroochydore in Queensland for the advance training, basically consists of jet training (on the Cessna Citation Mustang) and MCC. After that they come back and start their type-rating course.

For those thinking of pursuing their own flight training, the following are my opinion and advice.

1. Select a course you intend to fly in that country. E.g. if you intend to be based in Singapore, get a CAAS-approved course e.g. SFC, STAA. The reason being foreign licence conversion is an absolute pain in the rectum. Flying is not like driving. Holding a foreign licence does not allow you to fly a Singapore-registered aircraft. Many who went abroad and obtained a foreign licence (me myself included) got caught by many red tapes / bureaucracy involved in converting foreign licence to a Singapore licence.

2. If you have the $$ to pursue your own CPL training, my advice is to go with Tiger / Jetstar program. If you do your own stand-alone CPL/IR, that does not guarantee a job at the end. In fact 99.9% airlines nowadays do not want to take raw pilots with no type-rating unless you have thick cables to someone higher up. With the Tiger / Jetstar program, as long as you ace the interview and don't screw up the training, you have a good chance of having a job at the end because the program is tailored specifically to their airline operation.

Important thing is that you must be passionate about it. The road to the end is very tough, and only passion and sheer determination will get you through. If you're passionate about flying, the airline doesn't matter, whether the tail is a bird or tiger stripes or orange star. Bear in mind that SQ is not necessarily the best paying airline in the business. Tiger / Jetstar pay just as good if not better, primarily because of the nature of their operation, pilots clock up hours / sectors much faster than SQ. Generally a pilot with Jetstar / Tiger can expect to earn his / her 4 bars in about 5 - 6 years, as compared to 10 - 12 years with SQ. Once you earn your command in a A320, you can pretty much go anywhere.

All the best.:ok:

flying.monkeyz
 

if you can also highlight about the future obs batches..?? Will they be made from the past cadets passed with medicals and waiting or new interviews to b conducted or both???

Sorry I don't have that info.

Woah is there a tiger program?

Do share if anyone have info on the Tiger recruitment. Nothing on google yet.

U mentioned $141k, is the figure in USD or SGD ?

I believe it's SGD.. :)

Am sorry, just found out the exact course fee for private candidates wanting to join ST Aerospace. Total course fee for the entire 70 weeks of training is SGD 133,000. The certificate/qualification that one will earn at the end of the course is a CAAS CPL/IR with ME endorsement, frozen ATPL.

They have a next scheduled intake in late July this year and will be a full-time course delivered in 2 stages. First stage is 22 weeks of ground school in Singapore where you will do your ATPL theory stuff. The next 48 weeks will be flight training in Australia

The course fee of SGD133,000 and is payable in 4 installments.
o 15% of the Training Fee upon contract signature. (GROUND SCHOOL PHASE)
o 25% of the Training Fee to be paid no later than twenty four (24) weeks after the Commencement Date.
o 35% of the Training Fee to be paid no later than forty (40) weeks after the Commencement Date.
o 25% of the Training Fee to be paid no later than sixty (60) weeks after the Commencement Date.

Here are the pre-requisites for the programme

a. Age: 18 & above
b. Education: At least GCE ‘A’ Level or equivalent preferred (those with 5 GCE ‘O’ Level credits including Maths, English and a Science subject may be considered)
c. Able to pass CAAS CLASS 1 Aviation Medical Examination
d. Good proficiency in English (e.g. IELTS Overall Grade of 5.5)
e. Male Singaporean must have either completed, be exempted from, or not be liable for, full-time National Service (NS)

Also heard that the Tiger Programme might be starting in the second half of 2012.

Hope this helps:ok: