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Old 20th Jan 2014, 09:28
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Now just focus on finishing your training in Canada, worry about jobs later. To be competitive for Cathay you need more than a 1000 hours, so focus on getting that first flying job........and that's not easy! Air Hk, hk express, hk airlines have taken on guys with 250 hours, so u might have luck there. Think about doing a instructors rating, as Asia is short of instructors for ppl/cpl training. Good luck , remain positive.good attitude equals altitude.
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hi Flying-Mechanic

thanks so much for your input.
i really do hope if i can find my 1st job here in the airlines in hk.
and i also consider to do instructor rating. so to keep it in my pocket for safety.
as i know hk only offer PPL. no other training.

i always think positive, but looks like the truth is too far from positive.

yes, let see how the school say when i get down in the beginning of February.
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@bbl I trained in Vancouver and if you like I can recommend some schools to you. The best in my opinion in that area is in Abbotsford, Coastal Aviation. You might like PRO IFR in Boundary Bay. Its up to you to choose however in any case find a school that does not ask for large sums of money upfront. I personally trained at SkyQuest in Langley and found them to be quite well. They had good planes, maintenance, in house Flight Test examiner (the CFI), simulator etc. I'm also aware of some schools to watch out for, in particular PAA in Pitt Meadows. Slow training and no ground school. But the best is Coastal Aviation in Abbotsford. Anyways thought i'd let you know since you're in the same area where I was. Goodluck again. Also, uptill about a year ago there were lots of jobs for newly licensed instructors (class 4) in the lower mainland.
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hi three Green
thanks for your info, i didn't found Skyquest in my search list before. i will check price and info with them.
i have checked the cost from CPA and PRO. PRO had the best price, $10,000 less than CPA. CPA is $10,000 more expensive than PRO on the base quote and further away from richmond.

i will come back to vancouver next week. so i will then go check in person for CPA, PRO and PFC.

for me, i just want to get all my license done asap. 1yr is the best time. i think.

i want to try to search job in hk 1st, if not success then go back to search in canada.

i think i will also get the instructor rating. but i'm not sure about the different classes.

have you done your study? have you find your job? can you tell me your career path?
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 16:39
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Yeah PFC and pro are both excellent schools and I suppose closer to your place of residence. Getting the instructors is definitely the way to go. This might help you to get all your ratings/ licences in 1 yr Study GROUND SCHOOL, that's the hardest, flying's the easy part. As far as my careers goes well, I don't really see a light at the end of the tunnel for me. I'm now stuck as a load controller at an airport. But, that's just cause I don't have any more money for flying. I've tried couple airlines and made to about mid way in the selection process, but there's always some other guy who has a type rating. Oh well, don't lose hope by reading my story, you have your's to make and I wish all the best. Cheers
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 17:55
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All the best

it's going to be tough, and frustrating too once you complete your flight training. Be mentally prepared to go through it and it happens to everyone be it young or old. That's when the challenge begins and that's when u will realize that pilot sitting on ground is of no use and big dreams start with small steps... All the best , Hope you fulfill your dreams.
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Fai,

Studying in Canada won't automatically give you the right to live there. Immigrating to Canada is a long and difficult process if you don't already qualify on the skills shortage list.

Many people would love to live there so they are very picky on who they take. An automotive engineering degree with no work experience in India wont be of much use to you when filling out the immigration form.

Your best chance would be to go to Canada and whilst you are training meet a nice girl and hopefully then you could stay on a spouse visa.

If it was easy to get into Canada, USA, Australia or the UK there would be no one left on the Sub Continent!
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instructor classes

The Class 4 Instructor Rating is the one that all newly licensed instructors get. You need to work as an instructor to upgrade to Class 3, then Class 2 and then Class 1. Class 4 just means you need to be under supervision by a Class 1 or 2.
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If you haven't already, check out the forums on Avcanada

That is where most canadian pilots post and share their info online. A quick search on that forum and you will also find a lot of information on the schools to AVOID, as there are some out there that are poorly run by greedy overseas owners scamming the money of international students. Look for schools that have been around for a long time, with a good reputation.
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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 05:35
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Not worth leaving your 3 year old daughter for. If you really want to do it, study as much as you can about aviation, improve your English a lot, and maybe do a ppl to get some idea as to whether you have any talent for flying. Meanwhile, as an HKID holder, apply for the cadet program. Don't leave your family to pursue a long-shot.

Good luck.
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Old 26th Jan 2014, 16:25
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hi three Green
have u done all the licenses already? ppl, cpl, me, me ifr, etc...
i'm going do it full time to get it done at quick as i can.
i don't see the light at the end of the tunnel too.

hi all

i'm struggle now especially i'm at 41 now.
if i was young, i won't have any fear to go for it.
talking about the cost, time and future.
i really had the fear at this time. due to my wife and daughter and house mortgage.
i'm not sure what is right i should do.

walk away from the profession is not something i wanted to do, but..................
it looks like it is not the equality that how hard we input the effort, for how well we get.
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Old 26th Jan 2014, 16:29
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hi sumit-handa

it is frustrating all the time when the profession studied but no use at the real work.

i'm specially frustrating because i had married and with daughter, and at old age trying to go for pilot.
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Old 26th Jan 2014, 16:31
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hi fozzi
is the instructor level up depend on the teach hour?
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Old 26th Jan 2014, 16:41
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hi profo

i had already applied for the CX cadet, they rejected me even before interview.
and i had applied DA too, no feed back so far.

i know it it not worth to leave my wife and daughter at the time for pilot training.
but can u tell me what is worth to do now?

my wife won't leave her work in hk at this time. daughter cannot leave her too.
so i go away just for 1 yr study, and come back and try to find job in hk.

in the meanwhile, i keeping CX update already, i hope i can get a interview or something, so i hope i can get into the AE program. beside from CX, if i cannot get a job in hk, then i go canada to anywhere in the world to find the job.

u tell me what is right i should do.

unless if i'm not a pilot, not need to fly all the time. otherwise, all pilots need to leave their family.

unless, i have a bright future to move my wife and daughter, other, hk is still my base.

i know my english is not good. i'm too chinese.
but u see the cadets, they are hundred times worth than me in the video.
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Old 27th Jan 2014, 00:42
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bbl,

Yes, the class of instructor depends on how many instructing hours and flight test recommendations you have. To upgrade from a fresh Class 4 Instructor rating to Class 3, you need to have 100 hours of instructing with 3 students go on their first solo and 3 students pass their flight test. To upgrade from a Class 3 to class 2, you need 500 hours of instructing with 10 flight test recommendations, and you also need to complete a written exam and a flight test yourself. From Class 2 to Class 1, you need 750 hours of instructing, a flight test, and also 80% or above on the written exam. Class 1 basically gives you the privilege of training Flight Instructors, and Class 2 allows you act as supervisor and also Chief Flight Instructor at a flight school.
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Old 27th Jan 2014, 03:14
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@bbl Yup I'm all CPL ME/IR and seaplane. Training took me around 18 months. It can be done much faster depending on how focused and serious you are. I may have been lazy which prolonged my training, however I believe it can be done in 12 months or less.
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 06:17
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If you were rejected even before the cadet interview, what makes you think they will take you in the AE programme, assuming that they will be taking in new applicants in the future? The AE programme does not have lower standards than the ab-initio programme. If you really want to get into Cathay, I suggest you try applying for the ab-initio programme again.
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Old 30th Jan 2014, 08:53
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hi Fozzi

thanks so much for your info.
do we have any need for Flight Instructor in hk? do u know?

thanks
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Old 30th Jan 2014, 09:00
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hi three green

icic.
so what is your planning now?
will you continue look for pilot job?

what do u mean that u don't have any more money for flying?
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Old 30th Jan 2014, 09:24
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hi Drakeskyle

for cadet program, there are too many inexperience applicants apply for a few seats. obviously, old age sure no advantage.

but for AE, less applicants with the required FT apply for the few seats. so i think my age is less matter, and my chance of getting in is higher.

i have checked CX, i don't need to re apply every season, all i need is just to keep them update for what i working toward my aviation education.

do u think this is what i should do?
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