All you need to Know about DGCA CPL Conversion (DOs & Donts)
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All you need to Know about DGCA CPL Conversion (DOs & Donts)
ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT DGCA CONVERSION
Documents needed from your Flying School (All originals, no scans or copies. All certified by CFI except where mentioned)
1. Certificate of 200 hrs Total Time
2. Certificate of 100 hrs PIC
3. Certificate of Instrument time actual and synthetic (should include details each sortie and sim session, like date, a/c type & reg, inst time, toatal time)
4. Certificate of XCs over 100nm Radius (should include details of each sortie including date,a/c type & reg,route,distance,time)
5. 300 nm PIC XC certificate with all details
6. 250 nm XC check by day certificate with details (can log it as PIC ie P1/US)
7. 120 nm XC check by night Certificate with details (can log it as PIC ie P1/US)
8. Flight test report CA40 for both Day & Night
9. IR check report with two approaches
10. Certificate of 15 hrs PIC in last 6 months with details of each sortie
11. Certifiacte of 5 hrs instrument time (actual) in last 6 months with details of each sortie
12. Certificate of 5 hrs night Pic in last 6 months with details of each sortie
13. CA39 for 5 yrs and 6 months certified by your CFI
14. Valid CPL & Medical
15. Verification of your CPL and Medical from the Civil Aviation Authority of the country you are doing your flying in
16. Verification of the flying school from the Civil Aviation Authority of the country you are doing your flying in
17. Incident/Accident report from the Civil Aviation Authority of the country you are doing your flying in
18. Certificate of ground study and exam result
Documents you will need to get in India
1. Class 10th and 12th Mark sheets with Attested copies.
2. Verification of 10th and 12th mark sheets.
3. Pass Result of DGCA Pilot Exam (Navigation, Meteorology, Air Regulations) with Attested Copies.
4. RTR (P) with Attested Copy.
5. FRTOL with Attested Copy(you can either get the frtol before applying for conversion or with your application)
6. Morse Code signal reception test report
7. Indian Class 1 Medical with Attested Copy.
8. Attested Copies of Passport and Visa.
9. Five 3cm x 4cm recent Photographs with Name.
Before you submit your application you need to make a covering letter addressed to dgca which should clearly state all the documents you are submitting , have two copies of it, one to submit and the other will act as the receipt.
You will also need a Draft for the application fee made out in the name of ‘DGCA, PAO, MCA, New Delhi’ . The details of the fee are
· For CPL conversion of single engine ac with only one type(eg C152)with IR: Rs 10000
· For Cpl conversion Multi /IR and SE/IR(eg C152 & PA 34): Rs20000
· If you are also applying for FRTOL then add another : Rs 5000
Documents needed from your Flying School (All originals, no scans or copies. All certified by CFI except where mentioned)
1. Certificate of 200 hrs Total Time
2. Certificate of 100 hrs PIC
3. Certificate of Instrument time actual and synthetic (should include details each sortie and sim session, like date, a/c type & reg, inst time, toatal time)
4. Certificate of XCs over 100nm Radius (should include details of each sortie including date,a/c type & reg,route,distance,time)
5. 300 nm PIC XC certificate with all details
6. 250 nm XC check by day certificate with details (can log it as PIC ie P1/US)
7. 120 nm XC check by night Certificate with details (can log it as PIC ie P1/US)
8. Flight test report CA40 for both Day & Night
9. IR check report with two approaches
10. Certificate of 15 hrs PIC in last 6 months with details of each sortie
11. Certifiacte of 5 hrs instrument time (actual) in last 6 months with details of each sortie
12. Certificate of 5 hrs night Pic in last 6 months with details of each sortie
13. CA39 for 5 yrs and 6 months certified by your CFI
14. Valid CPL & Medical
15. Verification of your CPL and Medical from the Civil Aviation Authority of the country you are doing your flying in
16. Verification of the flying school from the Civil Aviation Authority of the country you are doing your flying in
17. Incident/Accident report from the Civil Aviation Authority of the country you are doing your flying in
18. Certificate of ground study and exam result
Documents you will need to get in India
1. Class 10th and 12th Mark sheets with Attested copies.
2. Verification of 10th and 12th mark sheets.
3. Pass Result of DGCA Pilot Exam (Navigation, Meteorology, Air Regulations) with Attested Copies.
4. RTR (P) with Attested Copy.
5. FRTOL with Attested Copy(you can either get the frtol before applying for conversion or with your application)
6. Morse Code signal reception test report
7. Indian Class 1 Medical with Attested Copy.
8. Attested Copies of Passport and Visa.
9. Five 3cm x 4cm recent Photographs with Name.
Before you submit your application you need to make a covering letter addressed to dgca which should clearly state all the documents you are submitting , have two copies of it, one to submit and the other will act as the receipt.
You will also need a Draft for the application fee made out in the name of ‘DGCA, PAO, MCA, New Delhi’ . The details of the fee are
· For CPL conversion of single engine ac with only one type(eg C152)with IR: Rs 10000
· For Cpl conversion Multi /IR and SE/IR(eg C152 & PA 34): Rs20000
· If you are also applying for FRTOL then add another : Rs 5000
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For any other AC indorsement add another : Rs 5000
When you submit your application dont forget to get your copy of the covering letter stamped by the clerk.
It takes about 1-2 months for your application to be processed.
DOs
1. Double check all the documents before submitting and make sure all the documents i have mentioned have been included.
2. Complete the application including the checklist provided in the end
3. Submit all the originals in a separate envelope.
4. Ask if you any doubts.
5. After one month is over keep visiting DGCA safdarjung to inquire about your application
DONTs
1. Approach or use any Tout, Middleman or Agent.
2. Get disheartened by the rude behaviour of the staff (swallow your pride
)
3. Argue with the staff (be polite but a firm)
4. Bribe anybody
In my experience all work is done legitimately if you have patience.
Dont give up keep at it..dont believe any tout..i have friends who used a tout and then were blackmailed later into paying more. Save your parents money
Time is a luxury you do have as of now, contrary to popular belief.
Also when you are flying dont over log even if some ppl are doing it even if yopu take a few extra days or months to complete your training..trust me on this..you will thank me later.
I ll keep adding stuff cheers!!
When you submit your application dont forget to get your copy of the covering letter stamped by the clerk.
It takes about 1-2 months for your application to be processed.
DOs
1. Double check all the documents before submitting and make sure all the documents i have mentioned have been included.
2. Complete the application including the checklist provided in the end
3. Submit all the originals in a separate envelope.
4. Ask if you any doubts.
5. After one month is over keep visiting DGCA safdarjung to inquire about your application
DONTs
1. Approach or use any Tout, Middleman or Agent.
2. Get disheartened by the rude behaviour of the staff (swallow your pride
)3. Argue with the staff (be polite but a firm)
4. Bribe anybody
In my experience all work is done legitimately if you have patience.
Dont give up keep at it..dont believe any tout..i have friends who used a tout and then were blackmailed later into paying more. Save your parents money
Time is a luxury you do have as of now, contrary to popular belief.
Also when you are flying dont over log even if some ppl are doing it even if yopu take a few extra days or months to complete your training..trust me on this..you will thank me later.
I ll keep adding stuff cheers!!
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@ DJ Flyboy
Hey there,
Thanks for the excellent information, it is much appreciated!
I have a question for you (pls excuse me if its a silly one):
I am an FAA CFI/ CFII with over 1000hrs. Do you think the DGCA would accept it if I certify my own documents? ....I would prefer not to travel back to California right now for a few signatures..
Thanks!
Hey there,
Thanks for the excellent information, it is much appreciated!
I have a question for you (pls excuse me if its a silly one):
I am an FAA CFI/ CFII with over 1000hrs. Do you think the DGCA would accept it if I certify my own documents? ....I would prefer not to travel back to California right now for a few signatures..
Thanks!
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@Eddie
i dont think you can certify it yourself
You need to get it certified from the chief flying instructor at your flying school and not from any CFI
When dgca says CFI its means Chief Flight Instructor not Certified FLight Instructor as in the U.S
The general flying test also has to signed by the person who took the test in your logbook also
P.S
You dont have to go back to california to get it signed
You send them the typed documents ask them to print it out on their letterhead and sign and stamp it .
They can then fedex it you
i dont think you can certify it yourself
You need to get it certified from the chief flying instructor at your flying school and not from any CFI
When dgca says CFI its means Chief Flight Instructor not Certified FLight Instructor as in the U.S
The general flying test also has to signed by the person who took the test in your logbook also
P.S
You dont have to go back to california to get it signed
You send them the typed documents ask them to print it out on their letterhead and sign and stamp it .
They can then fedex it you
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@flyboy :
for the IR requirement :
if im requesting for a Multi-IFR , the 20hrs instrument time on the aircraft should be on the multi or is it allright if yu have 15hrs multi and 5 hrs on the single ? plz reply..
for the IR requirement :
if im requesting for a Multi-IFR , the 20hrs instrument time on the aircraft should be on the multi or is it allright if yu have 15hrs multi and 5 hrs on the single ? plz reply..
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Anyone know if the english language proficiency test is required for conversion?
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Regarding the logbook
Does the logbook still needs to be endoresed by the Chief Flight Instructor of the school where I trained at? The Logbook is signed by the CFI, CFII, MEI and the Checkride pilot already.
I can get all the letters and statements, would that be enough?
Please advise.
Also, the passport, does one need to be an Indian Citizen or being a Person of Indian Origin is enough as well?
I can get all the letters and statements, would that be enough?
Please advise.
Also, the passport, does one need to be an Indian Citizen or being a Person of Indian Origin is enough as well?
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DGCA CPL Conversion Doc
Hello Guys need you help this is really getting serious dont know how its works
what i wanted to ask is -
250nm X-country(day test) + 120nm X-country(night test) will it include the general flying test by day and Night.
Will it be excepted if i do 250nm + 120nm X-country on Single engine.
It will appreciated if you post regarding this
Cheers guys
what i wanted to ask is -
250nm X-country(day test) + 120nm X-country(night test) will it include the general flying test by day and Night.
Will it be excepted if i do 250nm + 120nm X-country on Single engine.
It will appreciated if you post regarding this
Cheers guys
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@sperry:
250 x- country test is different from general flight test by day
and 120 x-country check is different from general flight test by day
so you have to do seperate check for general flying test for day & night apart from 250&120
yes you can do 250 & 120 on single engine a/c
250 x- country test is different from general flight test by day
and 120 x-country check is different from general flight test by day
so you have to do seperate check for general flying test for day & night apart from 250&120
yes you can do 250 & 120 on single engine a/c
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First my thanks to DJ Flyboy for this valuable information.
Could any one please split the cost involved in the licence or provide me with the link on the dgca website that give more information about it.
I think "Fees Rs. 5000 for each issue and Rs 5000 for each aircraft endorsements/ rating to be submitted in the form of Bank Draft Payable to PAO, DGCA, Ministry of Civil Aviation, New Delhi. " as read on the DGCA convertion flow chart on (B) 7 point. http://dgca.nic.in/licencing/conversion.pdf
but DJ Flyboy above says
· For CPL conversion of single engine ac with only one type(eg C152)with IR: Rs 10000
· For Cpl conversion Multi /IR and SE/IR(eg C152 & PA 34): Rs20000
· If you are also applying for FRTOL then add another : Rs 5000
but in that case won't it be only 5000Rs for Second point since he/she should have already paid for IR (SE or ME) on the first point (won't that be included in the initial IR issue) so was wondering if it is 10000k per additional add on rating?, Is it a revised cost than the one published on dgca website in the conversion flowchart?
Also what is FRTOL, i have a lifetime Indian RTR. does i need this FRTOL in along with RTR while submitting application at DGCA? Heard it is need to student pilots in India for performing RT on board an aircraft while training. Is it also applicable for conversion?
Thanks for looking in
Cheers
t.a
Could any one please split the cost involved in the licence or provide me with the link on the dgca website that give more information about it.
I think "Fees Rs. 5000 for each issue and Rs 5000 for each aircraft endorsements/ rating to be submitted in the form of Bank Draft Payable to PAO, DGCA, Ministry of Civil Aviation, New Delhi. " as read on the DGCA convertion flow chart on (B) 7 point. http://dgca.nic.in/licencing/conversion.pdf
but DJ Flyboy above says
· For CPL conversion of single engine ac with only one type(eg C152)with IR: Rs 10000
· For Cpl conversion Multi /IR and SE/IR(eg C152 & PA 34): Rs20000
· If you are also applying for FRTOL then add another : Rs 5000
but in that case won't it be only 5000Rs for Second point since he/she should have already paid for IR (SE or ME) on the first point (won't that be included in the initial IR issue) so was wondering if it is 10000k per additional add on rating?, Is it a revised cost than the one published on dgca website in the conversion flowchart?
Also what is FRTOL, i have a lifetime Indian RTR. does i need this FRTOL in along with RTR while submitting application at DGCA? Heard it is need to student pilots in India for performing RT on board an aircraft while training. Is it also applicable for conversion?
Thanks for looking in
Cheers
t.a