Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Wannabes Forums > South Asia and Far East Wannabes
Reload this Page >

CX / FTA Ab Initio – Instructor Scholarship Interview

Wikiposts
Search
South Asia and Far East Wannabes A forum for those applying to Cathay Pacific, Dragonair or any other Hong Kong-based airline or operator. Use this area for both Direct Entry Pilot and Cadet-scheme queries.

CX / FTA Ab Initio – Instructor Scholarship Interview

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 9th Apr 2008, 01:43
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Age: 43
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
CX / FTA Ab Initio – Instructor Scholarship Interview

I was wondering if any of you guys knew what the interview is like for the instructor scholarship program. I have submitted my application this week and am trying to prepair just in case I am accepted to HKG for the 1st interview.

I see what the interview phases are as per the FTA web site, but what in particular is CX looking for in a candidate? This type of program is new to me. Is age a factor? Education? Previous airline experience? More importantly what is TRAX testing? Any help that you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
GlobalAdventure is offline  
Old 11th Apr 2008, 06:04
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Canada
Posts: 170
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i don't have a reply either!!
takamasa is offline  
Old 12th Apr 2008, 15:30
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Age: 43
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It seems if this interview will be hard to find out about. I hope there is some sort of info out there. Hell I want to know how competitive this will be, they are not even tellig anyone about this program anywhere!
GlobalAdventure is offline  
Old 14th Apr 2008, 05:23
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Saskatoon
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Has anyone on here heard anything about their application?
taylor_mckenzie is offline  
Old 14th Apr 2008, 05:32
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Howdy,

TRAX testing is apart of pilapt, just search it in google (and here) and you'll find alot about it.

the apps closed today so hopefully they will be replying this week!
SkewedFlaps is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2008, 00:34
  #6 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Age: 43
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I looked it up. Thanx for the information! It looks complicated. Any insight of the best place to go study for TRAX testing and all that Cathay requires for testing? I have a mac and it is hard to get a program to download. Where would you go?
GlobalAdventure is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2008, 01:04
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm not to sure about what CX do for their selection process in this, maybe its similar to Qantas? I think trax is basically flying through windows, you could use cockpitweb for that, not sure if mac is suported
SkewedFlaps is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2008, 20:25
  #8 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Age: 43
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
OK so on the FTA web site, I see what the requirements entail. Does anyone know what CX looks for in this program? Is there any inside info about the tests and interview?
GlobalAdventure is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2008, 05:32
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: AUS
Posts: 42
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
Thumbs down

Hi guys & girls,

I heard today, and was knocked back, sadly

My disappointment is mainly around the fact that because the application was automated it did not permit for me to state everything that I am now doing so well, only my school grades which I will be the first to admit, are not the best.

I'm gutted.

AmarokGTI is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2008, 09:12
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I got knocked back too, do not worry there are lots of options open to those who have the determination to make it.

Why I got knocked back - Who knows?

What concerns me is that I have qualifications that exceed the criteria stated and even have a Batchelors Degree so I can't see how I got discounted for that........so that just leaves my other responses to the questions of a personal nature, it must have been those 'cause I do not have a criminal record and I already have a Class 1 medical.

All other questions related purley to personal information such as age, sex and nationality and discounting on the basis of these could be described as discrimination.

No wonder they do not want to give feedback!!!!!

Beware CP/FTA you seem to have left yourself wide open and whilst you state that you do not give feedback this does not mean that the authorities cannot come and ask you!!
biggles7374 is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2008, 10:41
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Asia
Age: 56
Posts: 2,600
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
biggles7374

Just because a prospective employer won’t tell you why you failed an interview doesn’t mean there is some sought of discrimination going on. The reality is virtually no prospective employer will tell you information like that unless you failed for medical reasons. Who knows, maybe the interviewers didn’t like you because of the way you came across to them or you just couldn’t sell yourself on the day.
404 Titan is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2008, 10:54
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Titan
I think you have totally missed the point.

All the questions on the online application were closed. ie a simple answer. there were no essay type questions and at this stage there have not been any interviews. All the shortlisters had to make a decision on was the answers to these 'closed' questions (name, address, education, sex, race and age). Had essay questions been included on the online application then there would have been an objective way of assessing who to shortlist from those who meet the minimum criteria. As there were no questions of such a type how did they shortlist???

I am not saying they are discriminating in their selection process, all I am saying is it would be interesting to see what criteria they have applied when shortlisting candidates from those who met the minimum criteria.

Last edited by biggles7374; 18th Apr 2008 at 11:12.
biggles7374 is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2008, 11:28
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Asia
Age: 56
Posts: 2,600
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
biggles7374

What ever criteria they have used to screen applicants doesn’t really matter as long as they haven’t broken any antidiscrimination laws both in Australia and Hong Kong. You appear to be asserting that because they won’t tell you the reason for your failure, they are hiding something. Let me point out that this is standard practice for most companies conducting job interviews and has been CX policy for a long time. It is because of the society that we live in today and the frivolous law suites that are brought before the courts that most companies feel the need to do this.
404 Titan is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2008, 11:50
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Titan

I do not want to labour this thread anymore than is necessary but I think you still do not understand fully.

With the exception of the education and criminal record questions the only other questions that were asked on the online application were essentially name, address, age, sex and nationality.

so...on the basis that I met (and exceeded) the educational qualifications how did they decide my application was uncompetitive based on the other responses??

That's it subject closed as far as I am concerned.
biggles7374 is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2008, 13:39
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Asia
Age: 56
Posts: 2,600
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
biggles7374

I understand more than you know. Again I have no idea why you were rejected per say. For all I know they may have considered you overqualified? It does happen you know. Secondly if some of the Cadet S/O’s I fly with can be used as a yard stick for this CX/FTA scholarship then they tend to pick those with a degree, usually in the discipline of science or engineering.
404 Titan is offline  
Old 24th Apr 2008, 09:18
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: australia
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hk shortlist... any news?

hey guys/girls

got an email from FTA last friday.
asked me to send in more information..... resume, academic info etc
i sent it in...... but haven't heard anything?

has anyone been told they are short listed yet?

good luck

ps this is my first post!!!
rollin' wings is offline  
Old 24th Apr 2008, 12:20
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Rollin' wings:

Congrats, pls keep us updated, interested in how they're getting the things going in this program
Caitengel is offline  
Old 24th Apr 2008, 16:13
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: HKG
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Biggles,

I'll try and answer your question with an objective mind whilst understanding that you maybe disappointed with being knocked back at the early stages of your application.

It is clear that this CX/FTA scholarship is a very attractive offer for anyone who would like to become an airline pilot, indeed to many it is even more attractive than the CX cadet program due to its long term financial benefits. However, you must realise, just because you meet and even exceed the MINIMUM requirements for the program. It does not guarantee you progression to the next stage. As I said before, taking an objective view, there must be thousands of applicants for these positions. So do you honestly think just because you meet the minimum requirements and have a Bachelors degree you automatically progress to the next round? Have you not considered that whilst you met and exceeded the minimum grade requirements, there are many other applicants that did aswell and even far exceeded your high education standards? You didn't state how well you did at school or which university/course you attended, it is difficult for us to sympathise with your situation. I'm not saying you won't be an excellent pilot one day, but maybe you could have taken a moment and had a think before you write here telling us that you cannot believe you didn't get called back because you think you are above and beyond what they are looking for!

Thanks

14Months
14MonthInterview is offline  
Old 25th Apr 2008, 01:54
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Saskatoon
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
As most on here are agreeing that grades were the determinant factor in whether or not your application passed initiallly, just curious as to what some of you who did pass initially and where asked for more information, what kind of grades you submitted?
taylor_mckenzie is offline  
Old 25th Apr 2008, 19:40
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Saskatoon
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
As someone who did apply and did not pass initially, I am just curious as to whether those who did pass submitted "a" grades for all three classes, or if having say 3 "b's and a university degree is more appealing to them than no degree and 3 "a"s. I contacted FTA, but they said no feedback would be provided when I inquired into whether or not there was anything applicants could do to initially make themselves more competetive.
taylor_mckenzie is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.