Hong Kong Express...anyone?
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I concur
e170LR and INFERNO ,I could not agree more ! Someone once told me MF was a backstabing , manipulative , self centered little c*** . I thought it a little harsh at the time , I didn't think he was overly self centered. Is it not a wonderous thing how some people can rise to their full capacity given enough time.
CX had their reasons for his untimely departure , I'll let you form your own conclusions. as for itjng ...... Watsons have a special on vaseline this week , while stock lasts , don't be late !
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You guys are wrong, I don't work for HKE at all.....not even close. I am flying up in the far north. But I knew MF way before HKE established.
Bare in mind that he is sitting in the office, he gotta think for the company as a management pilot. He gotta execute the senior management policies whatever possible.
Yes, he should stand up for you guys pilots, but up to a certain limit,....he gotta consider the picture from the management point of view.
Just like anywhere in the world, conflict between pilots and management never ends.....good luck!!
Bare in mind that he is sitting in the office, he gotta think for the company as a management pilot. He gotta execute the senior management policies whatever possible.
Yes, he should stand up for you guys pilots, but up to a certain limit,....he gotta consider the picture from the management point of view.
Just like anywhere in the world, conflict between pilots and management never ends.....good luck!!
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Yes, he should stand up for you guys pilots, but up to a certain limit
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Itjng, if you don't work for HKE, Please do us a favor and exit this forum, Your wasting your time and ours, trying to convince us. We have faced the gun directly.
Your so called Butt Buddy, MFC, has lied and played his mind games long enough. The pure proof of whats going on is directly apparent with how many pilots are leaving. Even the local chinese pilots have had enough and it does not take too much to please them.
People are fed up, with the constant betryal our CP provides in daily dosage. The question we all ask is, why. Has he forgotten his roots as a pilot, and no one in a professional arena deserves this. But every dog has his day, and his will come too.
I do suggest that you break any ties with your soo called friend, It be a shame to see a skid mark left in your undies, by our CP. I assure you, the amount of ass-kissing you do, you can get a job anywhere else, don't start at HKE.
Your so called Butt Buddy, MFC, has lied and played his mind games long enough. The pure proof of whats going on is directly apparent with how many pilots are leaving. Even the local chinese pilots have had enough and it does not take too much to please them.
People are fed up, with the constant betryal our CP provides in daily dosage. The question we all ask is, why. Has he forgotten his roots as a pilot, and no one in a professional arena deserves this. But every dog has his day, and his will come too.
I do suggest that you break any ties with your soo called friend, It be a shame to see a skid mark left in your undies, by our CP. I assure you, the amount of ass-kissing you do, you can get a job anywhere else, don't start at HKE.
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geez...you guys are scaring all the freash out of school pilot like myself HAHA
is it really that bad to work at HKE?? like...might sound silly but, if u really enjoy flying, then im sure a little bit of **** is acceptable...but, sounds lik us are really fed up with wat so called the CP
is it really that bad to work at HKE?? like...might sound silly but, if u really enjoy flying, then im sure a little bit of **** is acceptable...but, sounds lik us are really fed up with wat so called the CP
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really?
Your a bit rich UKOK, saying the Ockers and Kiwis are willing to take any COS to fly a jet.
You've got umpteen thousand wannabees in the UK paying for jet type ratings all over the show with 250 hours and whinging because they can't get a job. If they join Easy and Ryan, they get a a great COS there.
Whatever else is going on at HKE, none of the Anzacs paid for a type rating.
CX and KA are not taking low time turboprop guys, and Dragon never has. Get your facts straight, its your area, if thats where your from, that has been the start of the decay of COS.
Nosey
You've got umpteen thousand wannabees in the UK paying for jet type ratings all over the show with 250 hours and whinging because they can't get a job. If they join Easy and Ryan, they get a a great COS there. Whatever else is going on at HKE, none of the Anzacs paid for a type rating.
CX and KA are not taking low time turboprop guys, and Dragon never has. Get your facts straight, its your area, if thats where your from, that has been the start of the decay of COS.
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Nosegear,
Have a look at today's posts in the Monarch T+C's thread on Terms and Endearments. You'll see all the starting pay for for brand new guys across a spread of UK companies.
$90K usd basic is a tempting and realistic prospect for folks to go deeper into hock. Whether you and I like it or not it's market not lemming driven. The thought of taking that risk horrifies me but I'm not twenty, invulnerable and thinking no further than next week any more
Rob
Have a look at today's posts in the Monarch T+C's thread on Terms and Endearments. You'll see all the starting pay for for brand new guys across a spread of UK companies.
$90K usd basic is a tempting and realistic prospect for folks to go deeper into hock. Whether you and I like it or not it's market not lemming driven. The thought of taking that risk horrifies me but I'm not twenty, invulnerable and thinking no further than next week any more
Rob
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Rob, I'm ticked about this statement, "I suspect Ozz/Nz will be their main culling ground, as most guys there seem willing to accept any lousy conditions of service to fly a jet, even piss poor small ones." Its confrontational and almost soley without merit from someone who obviously has little or no idea. Especially given the facts, almost every 20 year old you talk of will go deeper into hock, to the tune of 40,000 GBP for a type rating, and this after only 250hours. The "shiny jet" syndrome is alive and well in the UK.
"Market driven"? Absolutely, and those digging into their pockets are the "lemmings" driving it...."he did it, so I better so I can get onto that shiny jet".
Just think if none of them did? I'm certain the "market" would be forced to pay for training, as they should. At least the pay is headed in the right direction, which is nice to see for a change.
Nosegear
"Market driven"? Absolutely, and those digging into their pockets are the "lemmings" driving it...."he did it, so I better so I can get onto that shiny jet".
Just think if none of them did? I'm certain the "market" would be forced to pay for training, as they should. At least the pay is headed in the right direction, which is nice to see for a change.
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"Just think if none of them did? I'm certain the "market" would be forced to pay for training, as they should."
I agree with you mate,
But would we, both of us, have agreed when we were twenty? That's the problem. Sadly it's shortage of pilots driving up the wages not the new guys standing up for themselves. And thus the market actually doing the driving.
I will, however, be scanning google images for a suitable lemming avatar. The main Jet thread over on the South Asia forum appears to have an infestation of the terminally naive.
Rob
I agree with you mate,
But would we, both of us, have agreed when we were twenty? That's the problem. Sadly it's shortage of pilots driving up the wages not the new guys standing up for themselves. And thus the market actually doing the driving.
I will, however, be scanning google images for a suitable lemming avatar. The main Jet thread over on the South Asia forum appears to have an infestation of the terminally naive.
Rob
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Every country has good and bad people, as does every airline. But for a taster of some of the bad/bizarre from Brazil, check these posts from across the PR delta...
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...ighlight=macau
Normally I would says that things can only get better, but in your case....
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...ighlight=macau
Normally I would says that things can only get better, but in your case....
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Need company info.
Hey there, i'm looking for company information. I'm considering submitting an application, but I can't seem to find a lot of info regarding the work sules or benefits that are offered.
I've read the whole thread, so please spare me the "don't do it" posts.
Thanks
I've read the whole thread, so please spare me the "don't do it" posts.
Thanks
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Is HKE currently recruiting?Are they biased toward certsin regional nationalitiea.Neither myself nor fellow countrymen get invuted despite qualifications and experience excewding minima vua online Is there a secret route we dont know about?
