Cathay ad for second officers
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Cathay ad for second officers
I see on the Flight Int website this morning Cathay have placed an ad for second officers........... all you need is a CPL/IR and 1000 hours. I'm a coupe hundred short myslef, but looks like a pretty good opportunity for us folks.
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It says 1000 hours but the reality is more like 3 to 4,000 with good previous airline experience.
I went through the selection earlier this year, when I was out in Hong Kong I was the only one in my group of 8 candidates with under 4,000 hours, and one of only two without jet experience.
Even so, only 3 of us made it through final selection, I wasn't one of them unfortunately
I went through the selection earlier this year, when I was out in Hong Kong I was the only one in my group of 8 candidates with under 4,000 hours, and one of only two without jet experience.
Even so, only 3 of us made it through final selection, I wasn't one of them unfortunately
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All Second Officer applicants must meet the following minimum requirements:
An ICAO Airline Transport Pilot's License (ATPL) (obtained without exemptions) or ICAO Commercial Pilot's License (CPL) (obtained without exemptions) with passes in all ATPL ground examinations
A Valid Multi-Engine Instrument Rating
A minimum of 1000 hours fixed wing (preference will be given to applicants with turbine or multi-engine experience)
Experience commensurate with age
A current Class One Medical
Fluent spoken & written English
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An ICAO Airline Transport Pilot's License (ATPL) (obtained without exemptions) or ICAO Commercial Pilot's License (CPL) (obtained without exemptions) with passes in all ATPL ground examinations
A Valid Multi-Engine Instrument Rating
A minimum of 1000 hours fixed wing (preference will be given to applicants with turbine or multi-engine experience)
Experience commensurate with age
A current Class One Medical
Fluent spoken & written English
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With that experience (3-4000 hours jet airline), and the correct national residence qualifications, a first officer job at Virgin and most other major longhaul airlines is within reach. Why would anyone with these qualifications want a 2nd officer job?
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edit: the published requirements are one thing; apparently the qualifications of those accepted are another.
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edit: the published requirements are one thing; apparently the qualifications of those accepted are another.
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That's correct scroggs it was the S/O position that I was applying for.
In my group there were :
Two B737 FO's - one easyjet and one SAS.
Two Embraer 145 captains - from UK regional airlines
One Dutch Bae 146 FO
One Netjets F/O (who'd previously been a turboprop captain).
One Australian Dash 8 captain
One Jetstream 31 captain (me)
A lot of airline experience sitting in that room, as I say I was definitely the lowest hours one there with my 3,100 total.
So all you hotshots with your 1000 hours of instructing, no harm in applying (I applied as soon as I met the minimums and it took 7 years before they called me), but I wouldn't go running your mouth off round the flying school just yet that you're off to Cathay
There's an ongoing thread running over on the FH wannabes forum about who got called for interview and what experience levels, should give you all a better idea.
In my group there were :
Two B737 FO's - one easyjet and one SAS.
Two Embraer 145 captains - from UK regional airlines
One Dutch Bae 146 FO
One Netjets F/O (who'd previously been a turboprop captain).
One Australian Dash 8 captain
One Jetstream 31 captain (me)
A lot of airline experience sitting in that room, as I say I was definitely the lowest hours one there with my 3,100 total.
So all you hotshots with your 1000 hours of instructing, no harm in applying (I applied as soon as I met the minimums and it took 7 years before they called me), but I wouldn't go running your mouth off round the flying school just yet that you're off to Cathay
There's an ongoing thread running over on the FH wannabes forum about who got called for interview and what experience levels, should give you all a better idea.
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I can confirm what Luke has posted !
2 pilots from my current airline joined cathay as 2nd officers this year, both had 3500 hours with 3200 of those on medium jets ! on their selection day all candidates had 3000 + hours
The cathay ad says one thing .... and there is no harm in trying ! .... but in reality ..... even for the position if cruise pilot, cathay get a lot of applications from 3000 hour pilots !
2 pilots from my current airline joined cathay as 2nd officers this year, both had 3500 hours with 3200 of those on medium jets ! on their selection day all candidates had 3000 + hours
The cathay ad says one thing .... and there is no harm in trying ! .... but in reality ..... even for the position if cruise pilot, cathay get a lot of applications from 3000 hour pilots !
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Agreed, Max. I can't understand why UK-based pilots with 3000+ hours on 737s or similar would want to apply to an airline offering them 2nd officer jobs - and a very long time to command. Especially an airline with such lousy industrial relations as Cathay. Remember the '49ers'?
I have a number of friends there, and few would recommend it if given a choice.
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I have a number of friends there, and few would recommend it if given a choice.
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Cathay's pay is not good unless you joined on the 'A' scale back in the '70s and early '80s, as did many of my friends. Many airlines in UK offer better deals than Cathay does now, and far greater job security through both legislation and union protection.
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HK......is also a nicer place to live than MOST of the UK..london aside
Plus give Cathay its due..varied route structure, nice equipment..oh and dont forget the Aussie Mafia
Money certainly wouldnt be the main factor for me to join....I make £10000 here more a year
Plus give Cathay its due..varied route structure, nice equipment..oh and dont forget the Aussie Mafia
Money certainly wouldnt be the main factor for me to join....I make £10000 here more a year
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Scroggs is right!
A few of my friends jumped in on that A scale and it was deffinately worth it at the time, though they all tell me now how they had to sit up there as relief pilots for a very long time which wasn't exactly fun.
I also agree with the route structure. It is very diverse and probably very interesting to fly. On the other hand some UK airlines are paying more cash for shorter routes plus the benefit to be home almost every night....
I guess in the end its an indivuduals choice of how you would like to go about living your life....joining a company for the longrun is deffinately a good thing as you progress the ladder of seniority.
Just my little thought...
P.S- They had Canadian licences and 1500TT with about 800Multi PIC. Cathay wouldn't call u down to an interview and sim ride if they weren't serious about giving you a chance.
Good luck to those who have applied...there is always a chance and read p on their interview technique...there are books that can help you with it!
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A few of my friends jumped in on that A scale and it was deffinately worth it at the time, though they all tell me now how they had to sit up there as relief pilots for a very long time which wasn't exactly fun.
I also agree with the route structure. It is very diverse and probably very interesting to fly. On the other hand some UK airlines are paying more cash for shorter routes plus the benefit to be home almost every night....
I guess in the end its an indivuduals choice of how you would like to go about living your life....joining a company for the longrun is deffinately a good thing as you progress the ladder of seniority.
Just my little thought...
P.S- They had Canadian licences and 1500TT with about 800Multi PIC. Cathay wouldn't call u down to an interview and sim ride if they weren't serious about giving you a chance.
Good luck to those who have applied...there is always a chance and read p on their interview technique...there are books that can help you with it!
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3-4 years as a cruise relief pilot, earning no seniority. Mmmmmm....
Check out the Cathay posts here http://www.pprune.org/go.php?go=/pub...annaindex.html
Check out the Cathay posts here http://www.pprune.org/go.php?go=/pub...annaindex.html
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Yea my aviation school actually recommended me applying for Cathay with the training being in Adelaide, Australia. Would be pretty awesome and a great way to start.
I heard a rumour that their hiring pilots with near no experience in order to lower their insurances!
I heard a rumour that their hiring pilots with near no experience in order to lower their insurances!