New Hire Training DESO
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New Hire Training DESO
Hello There:
I just wanted to get some insight as to what the New Hire Training for the DESO is like? I understand that initally we are sent off to Austriallia for a few weeks and then back to HKG!
Would appriciate some heads up, thanks!
Good Luck to all.
I just wanted to get some insight as to what the New Hire Training for the DESO is like? I understand that initally we are sent off to Austriallia for a few weeks and then back to HKG!
Would appriciate some heads up, thanks!
Good Luck to all.
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Yes, that'a about right.
Start in Adelaide at the BAE SYSTEMS college. Here you do a number of things:
1. Complete a Multi engine instrument rating and a/c endorsement on a Honk Kong registered aeroplane. This is done on a Beechcraft Duchess (4 seat piston twin). Everybody does this, regardless of experience level.
2. Convert current licence into frozen HK CPL. When you get the job, CX will send an application form to the HK CAD who will decide what/how many exams you must sit to convert your current licence to a Hong Kong one. This varies hugely. Two people with the same experience may have different exams to do. You just have to play the game. You will sit through lectures in Adelaide to prepare you for the exams you have to sit. Generally, guys I started with had around 5000 hrs, with at least 1500 hrs on heavy turbo prop and above. We only had to sit 6 out of the 19 exams.
3. Multi-crew training in a 737-200 sim. You complete around 30 hrs of LOFT exercises, no emergencies tested, it's good fun and you learn CX SOP's that you'll use when you get to sim training in HK.
4. You get to drink lots if you want.
When you get back to HK, you sit the exams that you have been prepared for, then you start the conversion course on the type you've been allocated.
Hope this helps.
Good luck
WP
Start in Adelaide at the BAE SYSTEMS college. Here you do a number of things:
1. Complete a Multi engine instrument rating and a/c endorsement on a Honk Kong registered aeroplane. This is done on a Beechcraft Duchess (4 seat piston twin). Everybody does this, regardless of experience level.
2. Convert current licence into frozen HK CPL. When you get the job, CX will send an application form to the HK CAD who will decide what/how many exams you must sit to convert your current licence to a Hong Kong one. This varies hugely. Two people with the same experience may have different exams to do. You just have to play the game. You will sit through lectures in Adelaide to prepare you for the exams you have to sit. Generally, guys I started with had around 5000 hrs, with at least 1500 hrs on heavy turbo prop and above. We only had to sit 6 out of the 19 exams.
3. Multi-crew training in a 737-200 sim. You complete around 30 hrs of LOFT exercises, no emergencies tested, it's good fun and you learn CX SOP's that you'll use when you get to sim training in HK.
4. You get to drink lots if you want.
When you get back to HK, you sit the exams that you have been prepared for, then you start the conversion course on the type you've been allocated.
Hope this helps.
Good luck
WP
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Thanks for the info...
So how tough are the exams? Are they the standart ATPL type exams such as the SARON, SAMRA and the INRAT? Or is it more complicated than that?
Thanks again!
So how tough are the exams? Are they the standart ATPL type exams such as the SARON, SAMRA and the INRAT? Or is it more complicated than that?
Thanks again!
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The exams are not too tough, they prepare you extremely well in Adelaide, and then you get another day or so on the harder ones in HK.
Don't worry about the exams, I don't think anyone has ever failed one before...as I said before, they prepare you "extremely" well.
Prior study is not required.
Don't worry about the exams, I don't think anyone has ever failed one before...as I said before, they prepare you "extremely" well.
Prior study is not required.
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Vaguely on topic. Reading the handout about BAE they stress what the Dress Code there.
Excuse my ignorance but what is a "white "pilots" shirt". Is it short sleeved with epaulettes?
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Excuse my ignorance but what is a "white "pilots" shirt". Is it short sleeved with epaulettes?
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are there are dress standards or requirements for the ground school or sim phase ie will jeans and t-shirt do or will this make you stand out. I am of the impression that we will only wear uniform on revenue (ie passenger carrying) flights?
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Silberfuchs, thanks for your reply.
Previous job was green Nomex and ocasionally a Browning 9mm. Should raise a few eyebrows.
But more importantly where do the Virgin Crews overnight and where are the best pubs?
Previous job was green Nomex and ocasionally a Browning 9mm. Should raise a few eyebrows.
But more importantly where do the Virgin Crews overnight and where are the best pubs?
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Dress standard
Truckmasters,
You will need to dress up for the sims.
Basically BAE is divided into 2 areas. The "flying side of the road" where all the flying, simulator, ground school, lectures etc take place. It is when you are on the flying side that you have to be in uniform (dark blue trousers, white shirt, epaulettes, tie etc).
Once you cross the road, where the mess hall and student accomodation are, here you can be dressed casually.
They will tell you on day one during the induction that when you are on the flying side of the road you should be in uniform during normal business working hours (8am till 5pm).
Like Silberfuchs said, try and enjoy yourself, the workload will pick up in HK. If you've never been to Oz before, go out and see one of the "open plain" zoo's where you can feed Kangaroos and Koala's, or better still, go the winery tour, it's well worth it.
trying to rack my brain...
one of the best pubs is down in "Glenelg" (1hr on train) called "The Grand". it\'s right on the waterfront and a great "View" in the warmer months.
In the centre of town there are various nightclubs and pubs.
Best to ask the instructors when you\'re there, they gave us the tips.
have a great time.
You will need to dress up for the sims.
Basically BAE is divided into 2 areas. The "flying side of the road" where all the flying, simulator, ground school, lectures etc take place. It is when you are on the flying side that you have to be in uniform (dark blue trousers, white shirt, epaulettes, tie etc).
Once you cross the road, where the mess hall and student accomodation are, here you can be dressed casually.
They will tell you on day one during the induction that when you are on the flying side of the road you should be in uniform during normal business working hours (8am till 5pm).
Like Silberfuchs said, try and enjoy yourself, the workload will pick up in HK. If you've never been to Oz before, go out and see one of the "open plain" zoo's where you can feed Kangaroos and Koala's, or better still, go the winery tour, it's well worth it.
trying to rack my brain...
one of the best pubs is down in "Glenelg" (1hr on train) called "The Grand". it\'s right on the waterfront and a great "View" in the warmer months.
In the centre of town there are various nightclubs and pubs.
Best to ask the instructors when you\'re there, they gave us the tips.
have a great time.
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Thanks for all the info so far. Since we are on the clothing topic, Are there any dress codes/ requirements for the Cathay city phase of HKCAD exams and type ground school?
