The most important religion in Australia revealed!
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The most important religion in Australia revealed!
The Consequential Amendments Bill connected with the Religious Discrimination Bill will authorise only one kind of legislation inconsistent with the Religious Discrimination Act: regulations necessary for the safety of air navigation.
There goes crew being able to leave the cockpit for Salah, five times a flight.
Will us Pastarians still be able to wear our colander headsets?
What view will AvMed take on circumcision?
Maybe some religions are fundamentally dangerous?
Save us, CASA! Blessed be the safety of air navigation!
Civil Aviation Act 1988
14 After subsection 98(6B)
Insert:
(6BA) The regulations may contain provisions that are inconsistent with the Religious Discrimination Act 2021 if the inconsistency is necessary for the safety of air navigation.
14 After subsection 98(6B)
Insert:
(6BA) The regulations may contain provisions that are inconsistent with the Religious Discrimination Act 2021 if the inconsistency is necessary for the safety of air navigation.
Will us Pastarians still be able to wear our colander headsets?
What view will AvMed take on circumcision?
Maybe some religions are fundamentally dangerous?
Save us, CASA! Blessed be the safety of air navigation!
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And what about the more fundamentalist Pastafarians?
How ya going btw Gerry?
Those who have operated during Ramadan with Muslim crew would understand the intent of the legislation. Fitness to fly is debatable after someone has been without food and drink for 12 hours, especially if operating a 4 sector day in summer. How does an airline deal with a Seventh Day Adventist who refuses a flight on a Sunday, or a Jew who won't work on the sabbath ? I've had first officers praying during the cruise and cabin crew that I was considering standing down due to the obvious effects of their fasting.
Air safety is one of the many things that should override religion.
Air safety is one of the many things that should override religion.
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You make my point.
What about patient safety in hospitals? Or maybe doctors and nurses have no religious beliefs. Why wouldn’t laws about patient safety be able to be inconsistent with religious discrimination law?
All of the examples you gave are dealt with in existing rules. If someone’s not fit to fly because they’ve not had enough food and water in the previous 12 hours, it doesn’t matter whether that outcome is the result of person’s religious beliefs, the result of the person having lost a bet or the result of the person just being stupid (to the extent to which those are different).
I ‘get it’ that everyone involved in aviation wants to believe that aviation - and therefore they - are ‘special’. But that’s one of the reasons we have the regulatory nightmare we have.
(It’s academic anyway. As AP has observed, the Bill is unlikely to become an Act any time soon. Scotty rushed it into the Parliament knowing that it would be punted to a Committee. That way Scotty can say to the religious fanatics that he (personally) introduced the Bill into Parliament as promised, but godless heathens are delaying its passage. I’ve always marvelled that the most treacherous people I know are ‘religious’.)
What about patient safety in hospitals? Or maybe doctors and nurses have no religious beliefs. Why wouldn’t laws about patient safety be able to be inconsistent with religious discrimination law?
All of the examples you gave are dealt with in existing rules. If someone’s not fit to fly because they’ve not had enough food and water in the previous 12 hours, it doesn’t matter whether that outcome is the result of person’s religious beliefs, the result of the person having lost a bet or the result of the person just being stupid (to the extent to which those are different).
I ‘get it’ that everyone involved in aviation wants to believe that aviation - and therefore they - are ‘special’. But that’s one of the reasons we have the regulatory nightmare we have.
(It’s academic anyway. As AP has observed, the Bill is unlikely to become an Act any time soon. Scotty rushed it into the Parliament knowing that it would be punted to a Committee. That way Scotty can say to the religious fanatics that he (personally) introduced the Bill into Parliament as promised, but godless heathens are delaying its passage. I’ve always marvelled that the most treacherous people I know are ‘religious’.)
Last edited by Lead Balloon; 4th Dec 2021 at 03:42. Reason: Fixed typo
If someone’s not fit to fly because they’ve not had enough food and water in the previous 12 hours, it doesn’t matter whether that outcome is the result of person’s religious beliefs, the result of the person having lost a bet or the result of the person just being stupid (to the extent to which those are different).
is the time of fasting based on acclimatised time, local time, or the time where you were last acclimatised to if you are now in an unknown state.. or even Mecca time?