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Forum: Tech Log
10th Nov 2001, 14:22
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Have to agree to differ on this one Cosmo.

Have to agree to differ on this one Cosmo.
Forum: Tech Log
10th Nov 2001, 01:58
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post How would you interpret this instruction Cosmo? ...

How would you interpret this instruction Cosmo?

"Climb to 2000', then turn LEFT onto R-236 to D7.0 RES. Turn LEFT onto heading 179* climbing to 4000' then turn LEFT direct to VOR and hold."
Forum: Tech Log
7th Nov 2001, 08:09
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Cosmo. Please pay attention. The point I am...

Cosmo. Please pay attention. The point I am trying to make is that the wording is wrong. I am perfectly aware that 750' is not a stop height.

In the english language it is normal to give...
Forum: Tech Log
6th Nov 2001, 05:45
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Anyway chaps, no-one has got their teeth into...

Anyway chaps, no-one has got their teeth into this previously posted one.

Please someone tell me I'm wrong. (with reasoned argument.

LERS missed approach procedure VOR ILS DME 25.

"Climb to...
Forum: Tech Log
31st Oct 2001, 03:26
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post The whole point of the thread Monty, is that if...

The whole point of the thread Monty, is that if the published procedure is unclear, then it may not be possible for even you, with your undoubted skills to fly. Not being a procedure designer, I...
Forum: Tech Log
29th Oct 2001, 14:49
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Monty Not quite with you old chap. ...

Monty



Not quite with you old chap. Could you enlarge upon that statement.
Forum: Tech Log
29th Oct 2001, 03:07
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Cosmo. The point of this post is that...

Cosmo.

The point of this post is that instructions should be instructions, not implications. Suppose you misinterpreted the implication and got it wrong.

Even I think it's obvious that flying...
Forum: Tech Log
28th Oct 2001, 15:44
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Thanks NIDB. What aboout this. Note the...

Thanks NIDB.

What aboout this. Note the punctuation.

LERS missed approach procedure VOR ILS DME 25.

"Climb to 750', then turn LEFT onto R-236 to D7.0 RES. Turn LEFT onto heading 179*...
Forum: Tech Log
26th Oct 2001, 05:18
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Ahh Yes OK I'll bite. It could say "Climb...

Ahh Yes OK I'll bite.

It could say "Climb on R-289 radial to 3000' to the VFA10 hold" or it could say what it says.

I guess no lawyers are involved here.
Forum: Tech Log
24th Oct 2001, 15:08
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Oh Dear! Sorry for airing my confusion...

Oh Dear!

Sorry for airing my confusion chaps.

On with the dunces hat and of to the corner to suck my thumb. :confused:
Forum: Tech Log
23rd Oct 2001, 23:28
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post You may be correct Cosmo. But then why even...

You may be correct Cosmo. But then why even bother mentioning 1400'. If you are correct then this part is completely and utterly superfluous. It shouldn't be there.

Unless you go around from...
Forum: Tech Log
22nd Oct 2001, 23:34
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post And another thing....... What exactly is a...

And another thing.......
What exactly is a "holding"?

I know what a holding point, holding pattern etc is.

But a Holding??

Surely this is not ICAO nomenclature. :confused:
Forum: Tech Log
22nd Oct 2001, 16:04
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post No reply from the Portuguese so far. Check 6,...

No reply from the Portuguese so far. Check 6, your chart seems to have unambiguous wording.

The point becoming clear from this discussion is that after several days of discussion, it is still not...
Forum: Tech Log
15th Oct 2001, 22:48
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Thanks BOAC I emailed the Portuguese AIP people...

Thanks BOAC
I emailed the Portuguese AIP people last night. Interested to see if I get an answer.
Forum: Tech Log
15th Oct 2001, 14:33
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post . ...

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Was the ILS up and running too 411A? :p

[ 15 October 2001: Message edited by: Bally Heck ]
Forum: Tech Log
13th Oct 2001, 23:05
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Could well be. Damned if I can think of another...

Could well be. Damned if I can think of another good explanation though. :confused:
Forum: Tech Log
13th Oct 2001, 13:40
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post UP2ZSKY The Faro I'm talking about is LPFR. ...

UP2ZSKY

The Faro I'm talking about is LPFR.

Cosmo.

If you are carrying out a VOR approach, where the VOR is located on the field, the approach to the IAP could be from any direction. The...
Forum: Tech Log
13th Oct 2001, 03:39
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Thanks for joining NextLeft. Perhaps I worded...

Thanks for joining NextLeft. Perhaps I worded that a bit badly. What I meant was that when designing a procedure, the designer would avoid a missed approach procedure which would conflict with an...
Forum: Tech Log
13th Oct 2001, 00:46
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Having thought about this I am now convinced that...

Having thought about this I am now convinced that the missed approach should be stopped at 1400' which is the 25nm safe altitude. This gives 1000' plus seperation from other aircraft which may be...
Forum: Tech Log
12th Oct 2001, 19:49
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post :confused: So who is prepared to bet their...

:confused: So who is prepared to bet their lives and that of their passengers that the climb is continuous. Lets say for example that an aircraft is commencing the VOR procedure at 3000''. You...
Forum: Tech Log
11th Oct 2001, 13:38
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post Perhaps this is not as clear as I thought. To...

Perhaps this is not as clear as I thought. To paraphrase the chart, it says is climb on runway heading to 1400'. Then continue on runway heading to the 10 dme holding fix, climbing to 3000',

It...
Forum: Tech Log
10th Oct 2001, 22:54
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Post But there is no turn. The VFA 10 fix is on the...

But there is no turn. The VFA 10 fix is on the same 289 radial that the 1400' height restraint is on.
Forum: Tech Log
10th Oct 2001, 03:34
Replies: 81
Views: 14,252
Posted By Bally Heck

Talking Jeppesen Charts

A TECHNICAL remark about Jepps.

The narrative for the missed approach at Faro:

"Climb on R-289 to 1400' then proceed to the VFA10 holding climbing to 3000' and contact Faro APP."

How...
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