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Forum: Military Aviation

8th Mar 2017, 09:41

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Voyager Plummets (Merged)

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Posted By woptb

Chug, agreed. Self regulation/self policing (clue...

Chug, agreed. Self regulation/self policing (clue in the term!) is intrinsically unsafe.Subversion from above or as dangerous, the appearance of subversion quickly destroys confidence.

Forum: Military Aviation

7th Mar 2017, 16:14

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Voyager Plummets (Merged)

Views: 473,744

Posted By woptb

I agree with almost all you say, but whilst the...

I agree with almost all you say, but whilst the MAA is imperfect it was stood up after & in the case of XV230,because of the losses.
DASORS (failings acknowledged) is widely used & has done some...

Forum: Military Aviation

7th Mar 2017, 09:57

Replies: 1,029

Voyager Plummets (Merged)

Views: 473,744

Posted By woptb

All the 'stuff' about design & systemic issues is...

All the 'stuff' about design & systemic issues is valid, but shouldn't people be punished for not reporting or cooperating &/or lying ?
Within the context of a just culture we want people to put...

Forum: Military Aviation

21st Mar 2014, 18:08

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Voyager Plummets (Merged)

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Posted By woptb

Just Culture is about perception,if its your...

Just Culture is about perception,if its your belief you don't have one,then you don't.The behaviour pre & post are key,was the risk of an error increased or compounded by the crews behaviour. The...

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