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30th Aug 2019, 15:08
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Posted By atakacs

From the various reports of the in-flight footage...

From the various reports of the in-flight footage and accident report my take is that they froze, possibly not even recognizing an engine fire and the seriousness of it...
29th Aug 2019, 21:33
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Posted By atakacs

Well, formally licensed or not, ignoring a...

Well, formally licensed or not, ignoring a defective (or at the very least extremely suspect) then burning engine was extremely poor aimanship. That people walked form this crash as sheer luck.
28th Aug 2019, 18:57
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Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

To be honest the licensing part of this mess is...

To be honest the licensing part of this mess is relatively minor when put into the perspective of the glaring mistakes and negligences otherwise comited.
28th Aug 2019, 13:42
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Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

Pretty damning indeed. And they actually wanted...

Pretty damning indeed.
And they actually wanted to fly this aircraft to the Netherlands!? Amazing.

Do we have any news of the recovery of the survivors?
11th Aug 2019, 07:41
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Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

Will be released when ready. Seriously! ...

Will be released when ready. Seriously!

These investigations take time and this one is probably not the easiest while not the most urgent (there are not that many Convair 340 in service). I...
23rd Aug 2018, 22:09
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Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

Hmm pretty damning.... Any specifics about...

Hmm pretty damning....

Any specifics about this document? Pardon my ignorance but who is that Deakin?
22nd Aug 2018, 12:29
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Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

I am not too much bothered about the paperwork...

I am not too much bothered about the paperwork shortcomings as I don't think it had much of an impact on the final outcome.

I certainly question the wisdom of flying paxes in a test flight after...
22nd Aug 2018, 09:39
Replies: 503
Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

We shall definitely wait for the full report but...

We shall definitely wait for the full report but there is little reason to doubt the preliminary findings.
We have a "super" CVR in the form of the GoPro. As far as we know they did not communicate...
14th Aug 2018, 12:10
Replies: 503
Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

What I really have a hard time accepting is that...

What I really have a hard time accepting is that during the whole flight they apparently did not communicate about the situation developing. I for sure would have engaged my fellow crew members about...
13th Aug 2018, 22:18
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Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

A slight thread drift but in light of the...

A slight thread drift but in light of the potentially missing certification of one of the pilots: how would someone get qualified on a Convair 340/440 in 2018 ?
13th Aug 2018, 07:35
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Posted By atakacs

They might or might not have briefed their...

They might or might not have briefed their contingency plans but from the "uber CVR" we had here it seems that execution was lacking, to say the least.
If what is described in the report is a fair...
12th Aug 2018, 20:31
Replies: 503
Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

Yup. I for one would have gladly signed a...

Yup.

I for one would have gladly signed a waiver to fly this bird (or the JU-52 for that matter) but would have been reluctant to do it straight out of maintenance...

Maybe someone with more...
12th Aug 2018, 17:58
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Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

Wondering: where the passengers made aware that...

Wondering: where the passengers made aware that this was a test flight out of fairly significant maintenance?
12th Aug 2018, 13:02
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Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

Well eventually.... More seriously it would...

Well eventually....

More seriously it would seem that they were pretty much comited to a return to the departure airport and never considered an emergency landing. That so many walked away is just...
12th Aug 2018, 06:58
Replies: 503
Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

Sorry for the slight thread drift but is it...

Sorry for the slight thread drift but is it common practice to close an airport for maintenance in what seems to be very short notice ?
Assuming they had no technical issue what would have happened...
11th Aug 2018, 21:32
Replies: 503
Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

Not to mention that they were flying to a closed...

Not to mention that they were flying to a closed airport...
Still a bit too early to judge their performance
11th Aug 2018, 18:57
Replies: 503
Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

Agreed. Would be interesting to know if it was...

Agreed.
Would be interesting to know if it was a deliberate decision (not to go through the fire checklist, and if so why) or if they just froze...
11th Aug 2018, 18:09
Replies: 503
Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

As they were having a hard time (and eventually...

As they were having a hard time (and eventually failed) to maintain altitude I'd say you try to run both engine as long as possible. Even a failing engine can still produce thrust.
Not sure that was...
11th Aug 2018, 17:18
Replies: 503
Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

Well my completely non-expert take They...

Well my completely non-expert take

They were incredibly lucky to have such a low casualty. This was not an emergency landing, just an uncontrolled crash into a dairy factory !
Some admin /...
20th Jul 2018, 16:28
Replies: 503
Views: 344,335
Posted By atakacs

Was there any kind of data acquisition /...

Was there any kind of data acquisition / recording on board? I understand no FDR in the usual sense but maybe some other device given the engineering related background of the crew?
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