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Forum: Tech Log
22nd Nov 2013, 16:25
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Good to see some re-hash of a few things,...

Good to see some re-hash of a few things, especially the AoA issues.

As far as the pilot actions go, all we know is what the pilot did. Until we all join him in that hootch bar in the sky to get...
Forum: Tech Log
21st Nov 2013, 00:43
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Only problem I have with your "analysis", Doze is...

Only problem I have with your "analysis", Doze is that the jet flies like all the rest.

That is true if all you want to do is have auto-trim corrected for pitch attitude, roll limiting to 30 deg...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Nov 2013, 23:20
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Me thinks that Cland and Gums are on the same...

Me thinks that Cland and Gums are on the same page for most of the philosophy here.

I can also appreciate the enginnering inputs from Doze, but saw many well-intentioned "engineers" suggest inputs...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Nov 2013, 20:29
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Some good points, Okie. My aero...

Some good points, Okie.

My aero understanding and actual college courses and actual flying with AoA indicators tells me that the "stall" or max L/D is pretty much the same as long as you don't...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Nov 2013, 14:57
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Good thots, OG. To be honest, I don't know...

Good thots, OG.

To be honest, I don't know when the Viper FCS ignored AoA or didn't. Best I have in documents is that it was used as long as we had WoW switch decompressed. When I did a tail...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Nov 2013, 03:31
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

In response to Cland, the three points where I...

In response to Cland, the three points where I was called out .....

a) Seems to be confusion here, even amongst the 'bus drivers about the various "alpha" limits or protections or whatever. And...
Forum: Tech Log
18th Nov 2013, 22:09
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Thanks for the graphics, Turbine. As with...

Thanks for the graphics, Turbine.

As with modifications of the military HUD symbology, I feel they are trying to portray too much info, and some will be overwhelmed by trying to keep up with all...
Forum: Tech Log
18th Nov 2013, 04:41
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

As a matter of fact, our pioneer FBW system did...

As a matter of fact, our pioneer FBW system did not have a stall or AoA warning.

We had a "slow speed" warning based on aero data if below 120 knots with gear up. Otherwise nothing. The limiters...
Forum: Tech Log
17th Nov 2013, 20:17
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Thanks, JT. Was wondering how we got that except...

Thanks, JT. Was wondering how we got that except is does concern the alpha "protections" and such.

Glad to see a few that "believe" in a decent AoA indication that could have the "limit" AoA...
Forum: Tech Log
12th Nov 2013, 14:11
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Yeah Chris and others, the A-7 was truly called...

Yeah Chris and others, the A-7 was truly called Sluf for Short Little Ugly "Feller". And staying off-topic a bit, we pilots in the first F-16 unit voted on "Viper". USAF didn't want a jet named...
Forum: Tech Log
10th Nov 2013, 19:06
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Back to the future one mo' time

Doze has iterated the basic concept of FBW.

Where application/implementation problems come into play is how much "protection" is included in the software or hard-wired analog systems we had in the...
Forum: Tech Log
9th Nov 2013, 17:50
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

laws, modes, backup modes/laws

OG has the best description of the "laws" I have seen in many moons.

The discussion here amongst the heavy pilots emphasizes a point I have made ( fire a way Doze) , and several others, that you...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Nov 2013, 23:40
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

I like this newbie "Don". Good thots. @...

I like this newbie "Don". Good thots.

@ Doze



Well, as most here know, I am in the latter grope of pilots. Got my engineering stuff from USAFA and was always a curious type. I even looked...
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Nov 2013, 01:07
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Here we go again

Salute!

Fer chrissakes, we are back to the basic design and such of the magenta line jets and the associated autopilot modes and their connection with the FBW systems or even the old systems.

I...
Forum: Tech Log
1st Nov 2013, 01:50
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

C'mon, 'bird. As you and I and Retired have...

C'mon, 'bird.

As you and I and Retired have said, the AoA vanes/cones should be taken as gospel unless they are all in disagreement or some other criteria is applied, and CAS isn't one of them.
...
Forum: Tech Log
31st Oct 2013, 14:50
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Gotta go with BOAC. I also wonder how AoA...

Gotta go with BOAC.

I also wonder how AoA protection laws could have caused a climb as 'nuts suggests.

The various factors resulting in the crash are all worthy of discussion and some...
Forum: Tech Log
29th Oct 2013, 15:03
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Sorry, but I don't feel the A/P should stay...

Sorry, but I don't feel the A/P should stay engaged with loss of air data unless it reverts to pure "attitude" hold.

The 'bus and my little jet 40 years ago used, and still uses, the "q" for...
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Jul 2013, 01:21
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

still bothers me

I am feeling that some of the dinosaurs here are resisting the concept of an inertially-based flight path symbol, coupled with a HUD are too much to ask. I also iterate some of my beefs and whines...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Jun 2013, 04:39
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Oh man. No names, per J.T.'s observation ( but...

Oh man. No names, per J.T.'s observation ( but you can quote me by name anytime and my profile on the entries has my real state of residence, etc.)

The HUD's in the military aircraft since 1968...
Forum: Tech Log
19th Jun 2013, 01:56
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Attitude, flight path, AoA, displays

Guess we folks from another career field have lost the battle about an AoA indication ( a simple one). Same for a HUD.

Being an aviation dinosaur, I was amazed at the first HUD I saw back in...
Forum: Tech Log
17th Jun 2013, 02:35
Replies: 976
Views: 218,166
Posted By gums

Another AoA disciple speaks

I welcome USMC to the fray. Seems to be from the "next generation" from 'bird and I, but has the same feelings/beliefs about AoA as RetiredF4 and other folks here that have used HUDs and AoA...
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