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4th Sep 2018, 18:02
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Posted By Chris Scott

FWIW I've read John Deakin's expanded emergency...

FWIW I've read John Deakin's expanded emergency checklist for the C-131 (CV-340) and, admittedly from my perspective of zero experience on type, it looks to be an excellent contribution.

Some...
23rd Aug 2018, 22:52
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Well Mr Deakin's opinion is as legitimate as any,...

Well Mr Deakin's opinion is as legitimate as any, I guess. I don't share it, except in the instance when the fire cannot be extinguished promptly. If it has been extinguished, one's choice of a...
23rd Aug 2018, 10:01
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Hi EDML, No doubt the wind conditions would...

Hi EDML,
No doubt the wind conditions would have permitted a downwind landing, particularly in an emergency such as pertained.The problem, however, seems to have been keeping the a/c in the air at...
20th Aug 2018, 00:02
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Yes, that it was a template date was evident! But...

Yes, that it was a template date was evident! But I think it's normal to append a specific date to any report.

Relieved to have confirmation that no one died on the ground, thanks.
18th Aug 2018, 22:20
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Yes, that was posted by Hotel Tango on 11th July,...

Yes, that was posted by Hotel Tango on 11th July, the day after the accident, citing a Dutch news source. The date of the Preliminary Report is corrupt ("01 FEBRUARY 2017" [sic]). but I imagine it...
18th Aug 2018, 19:22
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

WhoFlungDung writes that two people lost their...

WhoFlungDung writes that two people lost their lives in this accident, whereas the Preliminary Report (http://www.caa.co.za/Accidents%20and%20Incidents%20Reports/ZS-BRV.pdf) states one, who I...
14th Aug 2018, 19:51
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Bit early to be apportioning blame, chaps? ...

Bit early to be apportioning blame, chaps?

The investigation has a long way to go and minor anomalies in the preliminary report to clear up. The two flight crew have yet to be interviewed, AFAIK,...
14th Aug 2018, 11:52
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Thanks to you and others for the added detail on...

Thanks to you and others for the added detail on the operation of the R2800 auto-feathering system, which sounds comparable with that fitted to the Rolls Royce Dart turboprop engine some years later....
13th Aug 2018, 18:44
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Yes, as you say, the precise meaning of the...

Yes, as you say, the precise meaning of the numbers on a torquemeter are of little significance, provided the crew can confirm that they are within the normal range for the phase of flight.

I...
13th Aug 2018, 09:54
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Thanks for the superb cockpit photos, megan,...

Thanks for the superb cockpit photos, megan, although an even closer shot of the engine instruments would be even better. I'm going to try and describe them in case it helps anyone and, perhaps,...
12th Aug 2018, 13:25
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Great to have Centaurus back in the discussion....

Great to have Centaurus back in the discussion. IIRC he's the only poster with CV-340 pilot experience on the thread.


Yes, "TRAIL" is also used for take-off on the C-47 with its R1830 (Twin...
11th Aug 2018, 23:58
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Thanks A Squared, I shouldn't have included RPM...

Thanks A Squared, I shouldn't have included RPM gauges in that sentence. But my comment on the Manifold Pressure gauge stands. Yes, the report seems to confirm the fluctuating RPM of the L/H engine...
11th Aug 2018, 21:38
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Yes, it's unclear from the report if the...

Yes, it's unclear from the report if the cockpit-mounted Go-Pro showed the RPM and Manifold Pressure gauges, and indeed whether the readings from the L/H Manifold Pressure gauge were erroneous. As...
9th Aug 2018, 23:35
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Good point, A Squared. Do they predate...

Good point, A Squared.



Do they predate the CV-340? Presumably not. Is the aircraft only refuelled over-wing, or does it have a refuelling gallery for pressure refuelling?

I still don't...
9th Aug 2018, 14:35
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

All plausible suggestions, if a tad unlikely....

All plausible suggestions, if a tad unlikely. Yes, my comment was predicated on the assumption that the crossfeed would be closed for take-off.

You're right to point out that recently-introduced...
9th Aug 2018, 10:18
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK there is no...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK there is no suggestion of R/H engine malfunction. Is it being suggested that jet fuel may have been loaded into the L/H wing tank, but not the R/H?

Seems highly...
5th Aug 2018, 14:22
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Yes, it may seem like that at times... The...

Yes, it may seem like that at times... The problem is that a rare example of a significant, post-war aircraft has been lost and it appears that no one with experience on type is available and willing...
2nd Aug 2018, 19:02
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Yes, I also experienced an engine failure on a...

Yes, I also experienced an engine failure on a C-47 Dakota with 3 tonnes of newspapers and mail on board, but it happened at F/L 70. Hence no need to climb during the diversion. Had the ILS approach...
1st Aug 2018, 19:53
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Your final statement is broadly correct, and...

Your final statement is broadly correct, and probably includes the accident type.

But your first two paragraphs regarding the DC-3/C-47 are sweeping statements, Eric. Goes without saying the...
20th Jul 2018, 21:29
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Hi OAP, Yes: sloppy terminology on my part - on...

Hi OAP,
Yes: sloppy terminology on my part - on the back of 50 years to forget. :O For "pitch lever", read "propellor-speed control lever."

Re the rest of your post, I won't preempt any welcome...
20th Jul 2018, 17:36
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Several of us have commented on the apparent lack...

Several of us have commented on the apparent lack of rudder (or sideslip) as the a/c passed over the perimeter fence, despite the port-engine failure sequence evidently having started during the...
20th Jul 2018, 13:42
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Any analysis should benefit from the comparison...

Any analysis should benefit from the comparison between the performance of the failing engine's prop and that of the good engine which, to state the obvious, is operating at the same TAS. So that...
20th Jul 2018, 08:29
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Which is, as A Squared noted, 9:20.

Which is, as A Squared noted, 9:20.
19th Jul 2018, 23:17
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Thanks, A Squared. So 2700 engine-RPM would give...

Thanks, A Squared. So 2700 engine-RPM would give a prop RPM of 1215. or about 61 blades per second.
19th Jul 2018, 22:38
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Hi Marcus, You haven't stated your source for a...

Hi Marcus,
You haven't stated your source for a 16:9 engine-to-prop reduction-ratio. Mine, from Janes for 1957/8, giving an engine : prop ratio of 8:3 (i.e., 16:6), would give a prop RPM only...
19th Jul 2018, 21:53
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

You may know more than I do about aileron...

You may know more than I do about aileron upfloat, its degree and possible effects, but I find it hard to accept that it would be full deflection. Why would a control that is effectively feathered in...
18th Jul 2018, 23:46
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Well EDML, I'm not going to take the bait! But...

Well EDML, I'm not going to take the bait! But I'm not sure that a change of only 20 (prop) RPM would look totally different. That would be only one blade per second on a 3-blader, and my pocket...
18th Jul 2018, 21:26
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Which is why I'm not going to attempt it, Dave......

Which is why I'm not going to attempt it, Dave... :cool:
18th Jul 2018, 20:14
Replies: 503
Views: 344,318
Posted By Chris Scott

Looking at that same video of the take-off, taken...

Looking at that same video of the take-off, taken from the perimeter fence, I agree with you and EDML.

But there is some suggestion in the video that the RPMs of the two engines are already...
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