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20th Jan 2020, 09:43
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Posted By "Littlebird"

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Been there done that mate.

:p
19th Jan 2020, 11:27
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Posted By "Littlebird"

I don't think anyone would be silly enough to let...

I don't think anyone would be silly enough to let me anywhere near one of those things Chadzat!
My last encounter with anything French had a bad temper, only room for one, and tried to kill me on at...
19th Jan 2020, 10:06
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Posted By "Littlebird"

No, I don't have proof myself, but I have seen...

No, I don't have proof myself, but I have seen and heard the evidence from a very reliable source. Seniority out the door and as far as sim scores are concerned, we'll let's just say for some people...
19th Jan 2020, 03:25
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Posted By "Littlebird"

I have been told to leave this one alone for many...

I have been told to leave this one alone for many reasons. If you're lucky to be young enough, I would apply to VA and only accept a jet position from day dot, otherwise keep shopping. You're better...
30th Jun 2019, 08:31
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Posted By "Littlebird"

I'm not sure if they need Captains Krusty....

I'm not sure if they need Captains Krusty. Perhaps the company is hoping that after an EBA gets all signed up, jet FO's will want to go to the ATR.
Perhaps Mr Google Head or someone else in the...
30th Jun 2019, 08:22
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Question I'm happy to be corrected Mr Google Head, please...

I'm happy to be corrected Mr Google Head, please elaborate?
30th Jun 2019, 02:33
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Exclamation Krusty, No Jet FO's from VA mainline (737, 777...

Krusty,
No Jet FO's from VA mainline (737, 777 or 330) have ever gone to the ATR to date. All recent guys with jet experience have come from overseas.
L.B
29th Jun 2019, 10:30
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Arrow Hi Krusty 34. Yes, you would have thought...

Hi Krusty 34.

Yes, you would have thought it's a no brainer, although that is big picture stuff, and hard to focus on when KPI is the word on the street...Apparently the new CEO is on the ball,...
28th Jun 2019, 02:00
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Posted By "Littlebird"

What new salary?? There is no new EBA and it...

What new salary?? There is no new EBA and it seems no urgency from the company to finalise anything. So as it stands, average CAPTs pay and very average FO pay. Guys on the ATR are still looking at...
4th Feb 2019, 01:16
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Yes and how convenient that is for the company....

Yes and how convenient that is for the company. Why would you have any sense of urgency to renew.
Pilot's can't operate without renewing their licence and medical so why is it a company can get to...
3rd Feb 2019, 08:38
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Skysook, No doubt the employee would have...

Skysook,
No doubt the employee would have signed a contract knowing the terms and conditions of the cap.
A contract is between both parties, therefore each has their own responsibilities. The...
2nd Feb 2019, 11:29
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Yes possibly a better option, but not by too much.

Yes possibly a better option, but not by too much.
2nd Feb 2019, 11:04
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Don't Believe All The Hype!

Really? So if someone was to join on the ATR and the seniority list, you can go anywhere your seniority allows?
How about the 10% cap?
I've said this before. I've interviewed a number of ATR chaps...
19th Jul 2018, 04:40
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Arrow Judd - Why would they have to resort to...

Judd - Why would they have to resort to instructing with all that experience? You don't work in HR do you?
From my experience I can say with confidence that the majority of these guys would get a...
18th Jul 2018, 14:37
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Posted By "Littlebird"

By the time this EBA plays out and all done with,...

By the time this EBA plays out and all done with, I would expect most of the current ATR pilots would have had a start date and left for another airline. Yes I imagine a lot of experience with an...
18th Jul 2018, 13:37
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Posted By "Littlebird"

There's an idea! And how many FO's from the 737,...

There's an idea! And how many FO's from the 737, 777, 330 with a previous life as a turbo-prop Captain, would you think will not tell you to F...off and leave you with no airline? And how about if I...
13th Feb 2018, 20:56
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Arrow What I said was 'most if not all from the ATR...

What I said was 'most if not all from the ATR have requested a later start date awaiting some decision' not the 'ATR having a later start date'.
A significant amount of ATR pilots have successfully...
10th Feb 2018, 06:08
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Yes can't wait until the cadets do. My sources...

Yes can't wait until the cadets do. My sources tell me that just about everyone left on the ATR will resign soon after.
L.B
15th Jan 2018, 21:02
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Qatar, Singapore, Lufthansa with Norwegian...

Qatar, Singapore, Lufthansa with Norwegian leading the charge at the moment. Still early days but very keen to have this sorted asap. 2018 is going to be an interesting year.

Significant prop...
15th Jan 2018, 04:59
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Posted By "Littlebird"

ElZilcho - I admire your optimism. So it seems...

ElZilcho - I admire your optimism. So it seems seniority works OK unless you're on the ATR where it doesn't.
Let's examine the wide body command scenario if you're on the props.
1. 5-7 years on...
15th Jan 2018, 02:17
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Posted By "Littlebird"

And there lies the problem folks. For every five...

And there lies the problem folks. For every five pilots that are not retained and manage to leave Qlink or VAA ATR, a couple would be lost forever to overseas operators. Not everyone can return to...
12th Jan 2018, 11:45
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Posted By "Littlebird"

That's what I thought Fonz as well...although the...

That's what I thought Fonz as well...although the ATR situation is far worse off. The JQ and Link guys do not have integration. The ATR guys are employed by VAA mainline not a group company...a very...
12th Jan 2018, 10:42
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Shoddy - no job is worthy the stress you are...

Shoddy - no job is worthy the stress you are experiencing in the hands of what is clearly a very poor management team. Work is another form of a relationship and you owe it to yourself to be happy...
5th Jan 2018, 04:43
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Shoddy88 It saddens me to hear your story of...

Shoddy88
It saddens me to hear your story of your experience on the ATR. I do know that you're legit in what you're saying as I have many friends at VAA not on the ATR and have echoed the same story...
4th Jan 2018, 21:28
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Posted By "Littlebird"

ATR Pilots

Holding people back in their careers due to lack of planning and execution in order to minimise risks is a very shortsighted approach.
It appears seniority plus ten percent cap equates to a noose...
3rd Sep 2017, 08:08
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Posted By "Littlebird"

SHVC. OK I was under the impression that your...

SHVC. OK I was under the impression that your employer entity changed to VAA from VARA and your chief pilot was the VAA CP. Am I missing something?
Unfortunately the majority voted that dismal EBA...
3rd Sep 2017, 03:30
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Posted By "Littlebird"

So let me get this right...ATR pilots that have...

So let me get this right...ATR pilots that have been with the Virgin group for over 5 years, were put through integration transfer training 2 years ago in order to swap from VARA to VAA, then...
24th Aug 2017, 07:49
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Posted By "Littlebird"

With the many opportunities out there at the...

With the many opportunities out there at the moment it is important to get in now with the right employer. If you're after a job then this might be for you. If you're after a career I would try...
9th Aug 2017, 03:21
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Posted By "Littlebird"

Conducting assessment of pilots should have been...

Conducting assessment of pilots should have been done prior to these pilots integrating to Virgin from Virgin Regional NOT after. Why is this necessary now? This practice is inefficient, unecessary...
20th Jul 2017, 05:42
Replies: 1,195
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Posted By "Littlebird"

SHVC. Fair enough re Perth and the F100. I've...

SHVC. Fair enough re Perth and the F100.
I've had the cap explained to me in detail. How's that working for the company with retention in mind?
As far as there not being many ATR drivers who have...
19th Jul 2017, 13:27
Replies: 1,195
Views: 1,336,878
Posted By "Littlebird"

So no takers from inside VA for the F100 FO jobs...

So no takers from inside VA for the F100 FO jobs posted today on AFAP? Surely the Fokker would be a better proposition than the ATR? Externals are not taking the dangling carrot on the F100 or ATR or...
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