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17th Dec 2020, 09:10
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Posted By Distant Voice

Completely agree, and that is why it is...

Completely agree, and that is why it is important, in the event of a death, to follow up a BOI (now SI) with an Inquest or Fatal Accident Inquiry.

For the avoidance of any doubt the points that I...
17th Dec 2020, 00:41
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

Several interesting statements are locked away in...

Several interesting statements are locked away in the recently acquired copy of the BOI report;
(1) The loss of XV 256 indicated that there was a failure to appreciate the true hazard, and that such...
21st Nov 2020, 12:40
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

The Fatal Accident and Sudden Death (Scotland)...

The Fatal Accident and Sudden Death (Scotland) Act1976 stipulates that an FAI will be undertaken if “it appears that the death has resulted from an accident occurring in Scotland while the person who...
19th Nov 2020, 20:44
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

So will I. Many thanks Chugalug2. I hope the...

So will I. Many thanks Chugalug2. I hope the families get to read this.

DV
19th Nov 2020, 16:23
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

Bob, most unlikely, the clue is in the word...

Bob, most unlikely, the clue is in the word 'summary'. There had to be a full inquiry which was summarised.

In the early 1970's I was the President of a Kinloss Unit Inquiry into mercury...
19th Nov 2020, 16:08
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

They do not exist. Confirmed by the Crown Office...

They do not exist. Confirmed by the Crown Office and Prosecution Service in a letter to the Scottish Justice Committee in 2015. The only 'military' FAI to have taken place was for the MOK accident...
19th Nov 2020, 13:22
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

Sorry Bob, you are wrong. The Fatal Accident and...

Sorry Bob, you are wrong. The Fatal Accident and Sudden Death Act 1976 was in force but was bypassed, as it was for the next 35 years. The 'collusion' between the MoD and the Crown Office of Scotland...
19th Nov 2020, 11:42
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

My point, in a nutshell, is that there wasn't an...

My point, in a nutshell, is that there wasn't an independent and open inquiry, with cross examination. What bird strike risk assessment had been carried out for the Findhorn Bay area (end of Kinloss...
19th Nov 2020, 10:58
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

The ASN and the MOD summary are identical in the...

The ASN and the MOD summary are identical in the opening paragraphs, apart from the following.

ASN: "shortly after takeoff, at an estimated height of 20 ft, the aircraft flew through a dense flock...
19th Nov 2020, 10:16
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

And what drum is that?

And what drum is that?
18th Nov 2020, 22:06
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

That is just a non technical summary, prepared by...

That is just a non technical summary, prepared by MoD, for parliament. It is not the official BOI report

I have all four pages of the summary, not just the first page.

DV
18th Nov 2020, 19:29
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

Just This Once: I suspect that narrative (link)...

Just This Once: I suspect that narrative (link) and the Accident Summary are based on the official BOI report, for which I can not find a link.

DV
18th Nov 2020, 18:52
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

Back in May 2016 I wrote to Lord Mackay of...

Back in May 2016 I wrote to Lord Mackay of Clashfern, who was Lord Advocate between Jun 1979 and Nov 1981, and asked him why FAIs were not undertake for a number fatal military accidents during his...
18th Nov 2020, 16:38
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

Please see ...

Please see
https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19801117-1 (https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19801117-1)


DV
18th Nov 2020, 16:33
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

So the risk was not ALARP at the time of the...

So the risk was not ALARP at the time of the accident. What happened to the runway bird scarer?

DV
18th Nov 2020, 16:17
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

Nothing since the law was changed. In fact the...

Nothing since the law was changed. In fact the revised FAI act will have issues because it has been link with 'active service' in Scotland, and I do not know of any.

DV
18th Nov 2020, 16:13
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

That's the ruling of the Lord Advocate and the...

That's the ruling of the Lord Advocate and the Crown office, not mine. I got the FAI act amended in 2015 and had the stupidity removed.

DV
18th Nov 2020, 13:50
Replies: 58
Views: 22,864
Posted By Distant Voice

Nimrod XV 256 accident (1980)

Yesterday, (17th Nov), was the 40th anniversary of the tragic accident involving Nimrod XV256. This was one of the first military accidents in Scotland that should have been covered by the 1976 Fatal...
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