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Forum: Rumours & News

30th Jun 2014, 15:54

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Pitch-up Upsets due to ILS False Glide Slope

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Posted By BOAC

- I don't think it requires much to come to a...

- I don't think it requires much to come to a conclusion on the crew input, really. If the slide presented at around 4 minutes is representative, you have to ask, 2nm, over 1500'........no GP...

Forum: Rumours & News

29th Jun 2014, 19:50

Replies: 47

Pitch-up Upsets due to ILS False Glide Slope

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Posted By BOAC

Without wishing to prolong the agony here, 'the...

Without wishing to prolong the agony here, 'the intercept from above' DID contribute to the AMS accident since the throttles were closed for some time due to the need to descend more rapidly which to...

Forum: Rumours & News

29th Jun 2014, 07:18

Replies: 47

Pitch-up Upsets due to ILS False Glide Slope

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Posted By BOAC

Hopefully with the spread of VNAV/GPS approaches...

Hopefully with the spread of VNAV/GPS approaches we will see less of this. It is, however, a useful reminder for crews on the 'perils' of false glideslopes, the need to think about autopilot useage,...

Forum: Rumours & News

27th Jun 2014, 17:11

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Pitch-up Upsets due to ILS False Glide Slope

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Posted By BOAC

...and that is the point I made in post #2? Used...

...and that is the point I made in post #2? Used to be known as airmanship..........

EDIT: Erm - here we go agan with time travel. This was posted in response to Pace (now post #25???), so unless...

Forum: Rumours & News

27th Jun 2014, 12:41

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Pitch-up Upsets due to ILS False Glide Slope

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Posted By BOAC

Agreed, but as per post#12 and it surely does no...

Agreed, but as per post#12 and it surely does no harm to 'refresh' those who have forgotten and educate those who apparently don't know? I do not see anyone excusing the crew or ATC.- this event...

Forum: Rumours & News

27th Jun 2014, 11:21

Replies: 47

Pitch-up Upsets due to ILS False Glide Slope

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Posted By BOAC

It is but a short step from a 'fly down' demand...

It is but a short step from a 'fly down' demand when 'below' the false GS (and going down) to the a/c trimming back to 'hold' the false G/S and then rapidly into a rapidly accelerating 'fly up'...

Forum: Rumours & News

27th Jun 2014, 06:44

Replies: 47

Pitch-up Upsets due to ILS False Glide Slope

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Posted By BOAC

It is important to make sure that the focus here...

It is important to make sure that the focus here is on the way the A/P responded (as designed!) to the reversed signals and not particularly on the rates of descent.

The other point is that there...

Forum: Rumours & News

26th Jun 2014, 20:51

Replies: 47

Pitch-up Upsets due to ILS False Glide Slope

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Posted By BOAC

gys - in my 'time' we were warned that the land...

gys - in my 'time' we were warned that the land of reflected glideslopes was dragon infested, and it does not take much thinking to work out the effect of a reversed GS signal on an automatic system....

Forum: Rumours & News

26th Jun 2014, 14:41

Replies: 47

Pitch-up Upsets due to ILS False Glide Slope

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Posted By BOAC

I cannot understand the comment that this...

I cannot understand the comment that this 'phenomenon' was unknown to flight crew in 2013. There have been warnings about it for years and the advice has always been to capture from below if...

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