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Forum: Tech Log

8th Mar 2011, 12:01

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jet/bird evasive action

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Posted By misd-agin

When I say 'plow through them' I'm not talking...

When I say 'plow through them' I'm not talking about an identified flock of birds that when seen early enough is avoidable.

So there's the balance, sometimes you can see them and generate...

Forum: Tech Log

7th Mar 2011, 19:11

Replies: 117

jet/bird evasive action

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Posted By misd-agin

Wings level, close your eyes, and pray(or hope...

Wings level, close your eyes, and pray(or hope for the non-religious). ;)

Flown by, or through, hundreds, if not thousands of birds during a 30+ yr career. Total hits probably still in the single...

Forum: Tech Log

6th Mar 2011, 22:22

Replies: 117

jet/bird evasive action

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Posted By misd-agin

I made a basic mistake in the bank angle math,...

I made a basic mistake in the bank angle math, and how much it displaced an engine from wings level. It's HALF the value I posted. So you're telling me you can calculate where the birds will be...

Forum: Tech Log

6th Mar 2011, 16:25

Replies: 117

jet/bird evasive action

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Posted By misd-agin

Figure out the math on the distance between the...

Figure out the math on the distance between the engine centerlines -

737 - less than 40'
767 - less than 60'
777 - less than 70'

A 60 degree bank would equate to .9 (90%) of the distance...

Forum: Tech Log

6th Mar 2011, 13:17

Replies: 117

jet/bird evasive action

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Posted By misd-agin

"I offered the bank as an escape maneuver when...

"I offered the bank as an escape maneuver when other options wouldn't work...imagine if that 707 was over your head and you pulled up to avoid the birds...and now you both have TCAS and it issues an...

Forum: Tech Log

5th Mar 2011, 15:42

Replies: 117

jet/bird evasive action

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Posted By misd-agin

60 degrees of bank? Number of the hundreds of...

60 degrees of bank? Number of the hundreds of pilots I've flown with that have done that? Zero. I think they're onto something.

Forum: Tech Log

28th Feb 2011, 23:47

Replies: 117

jet/bird evasive action

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Posted By misd-agin

Birds tend to tuck and dive. Not 'always'....

Birds tend to tuck and dive. Not 'always'. However, they also underestimate the closure rate of 150-350 MPH, so they actually gain little vertical seperation.

60 degrees of bank? First time I've...

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