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Forum: ATC Issues
15th Aug 2020, 14:31
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

Hi Ft1989 It's really hard to know what will...

Hi Ft1989
It's really hard to know what will happen. What is clear is the traffic levels that recruitment was carried out for in 2019 clearly are not going to be back for the foreseeable future....
Forum: ATC Issues
14th Aug 2020, 09:46
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

My course, no one got the posting they wanted....

My course, no one got the posting they wanted. People from the south coast ended up in Scotland, people from the midlands ended up in Scotland and the south coast.

Speculation that training will...
Forum: ATC Issues
13th Aug 2020, 08:12
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

What do you define as "a good posting"?

What do you define as "a good posting"?
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Dec 2019, 18:37
Replies: 139
Views: 80,305
Posted By Flying184

Yes - it is a Rating Endorsement

Yes - it is a Rating Endorsement
Forum: ATC Issues
25th Sep 2019, 09:24
Replies: 15
Views: 5,054
Posted By Flying184

Google is your friend ...

Google is your friend

https://www.caa.co.uk/medical/

Everything you need is here.
Forum: ATC Issues
18th Aug 2019, 13:46
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

Remember that ANS only have contracts...

Remember that ANS only have contracts (currently....) at 2 airports though, each of those with around 20 ATCOs so can't imagine there is a huge demand for new ab-initio ATCOs!

My advice would be...
Forum: ATC Issues
7th Aug 2019, 18:26
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

You complete your college training. At the end of...

You complete your college training. At the end of this, you receive your posting. Once you begin at your posting/unit this is where you will train and validate your license, and thus your place of...
Forum: ATC Issues
6th Aug 2019, 17:28
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

Be aware that, whilst preferences are taken near...

Be aware that, whilst preferences are taken near the end of the course, subject to you passing, out of 15 on my course 3 got one of their preferences.

In terms of what occurs, you normally get an...
Forum: ATC Issues
5th Aug 2019, 10:13
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

You need to appreciate that you are applying for...

You need to appreciate that you are applying for a mobile job grade, and therefore the company has the right to post you to where their business needs are. If you are successful in your application,...
Forum: ATC Issues
31st Jul 2019, 08:49
Replies: 44
Views: 20,845
Posted By Flying184

This is a really interesting post and gives a...

This is a really interesting post and gives a great insight into the history of where we are at. For what it's worth I totally agree with all of your sentiments.

I do agree that there is some...
Forum: ATC Issues
29th Jul 2019, 14:15
Replies: 44
Views: 20,845
Posted By Flying184

Absolutely! I would say (hope) standard for any...

Absolutely! I would say (hope) standard for any OJTI regardless of ANSP or unit!

My point was merely in relation to the way in which training is conducted as an industry, not specific to any unit,...
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Jul 2019, 13:11
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

That's what the email says........... :ugh:

That's what the email says...........

:ugh:
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Jul 2019, 09:41
Replies: 44
Views: 20,845
Posted By Flying184

This is because the training styles and learning...

This is because the training styles and learning employed in the ATC world are still stuck in the 1950's.... I mean rote learning lists from MATS1 at the college?! And then at unit being plugged in...
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Jul 2019, 09:32
Replies: 44
Views: 20,845
Posted By Flying184

Skill? I would argue this is quite the opposite. ...

Skill? I would argue this is quite the opposite. The only way this would be skilful (and I use the term very loosely) is if the two ahead are helicopters or light GA. I control at a busy London...
Forum: ATC Issues
18th Feb 2019, 08:56
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

Couldn't agree more! The courses are twice as...

Couldn't agree more! The courses are twice as intense as any degree/masters course and require total commitment. There is a HUGE volume of content to learn and understand. As an example my course...
Forum: ATC Issues
7th Feb 2019, 19:02
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

Southampton v Farnborough? Band 2 has an...

Southampton v Farnborough?

Band 2 has an even better example..... Glasgow v Bristol! Certainly a lot cheaper to live in Glasgow compared to Bristol.

Also worth adding that trainees are not...
Forum: ATC Issues
6th Feb 2019, 13:07
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

Alternatively you could be posted to a Band 1...

Alternatively you could be posted to a Band 1 unit in London where the cost of living his high, compared to a colleague who gets posted to a band 1 unit where the cost of living is low.....

Swings...
Forum: ATC Issues
27th Jan 2019, 11:22
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

The additional training venues are to increase...

The additional training venues are to increase training capacity given the level of demand across the UK and the reduction in training facilities at CTC that happened a few years ago. The Union are...
Forum: ATC Issues
31st Dec 2018, 16:45
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

No - it's an aptitude test. It is testing your...

No - it's an aptitude test. It is testing your skills/how your brain works - you can't "study" or "learn" for these kinda things.

Just go in, take your time, and do the practice at the start of...
Forum: ATC Issues
27th Dec 2018, 20:15
Replies: 7
Views: 3,179
Posted By Flying184

No - you cannot *assume* this because what if a...

No - you cannot *assume* this because what if a heavy (e.g. B773) is taking off on an empty repositioning flight, and an A321 is taking off on a max take-off weight from the opposite end.

As...
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Dec 2018, 22:01
Replies: 7
Views: 3,179
Posted By Flying184

No defined procedures.(always takes a while to...

No defined procedures.(always takes a while to get your head around it!)

But common sense says if you believe the flight paths will cross then apply the appropriate wake turbulence separation...
Forum: ATC Issues
8th Sep 2018, 16:43
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

I would strongly recommend against this! Do not...

I would strongly recommend against this! Do not under-estimate the workload involved in the basic and rating courses. I hold a degree and masters and can honestly say the ATCO training was by far the...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Aug 2018, 14:17
Replies: 10
Views: 2,729
Posted By Flying184

Even if it is £19423, as a student ATCO you do...

Even if it is £19423, as a student ATCO you do not get living/rent allowance. TATC: £17000 + 2880 rent allowance annually = £19880 ...... means you may still get a paycut on posting!
Forum: ATC Issues
19th Aug 2018, 09:48
Replies: 10
Views: 2,729
Posted By Flying184

I wouldn't complain too much... on your new TATC...

I wouldn't complain too much... on your new TATC salary + £240 a month tax free you are taking home more cash than Student ATCOs at Band 1 units (which the majority of NATS units are). When we went...
Forum: ATC Issues
24th Jul 2018, 16:04
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

Basic Course 9 weeks Aerodrome Course 10 weeks ...

Basic Course 9 weeks
Aerodrome Course 10 weeks
Approach Radar Course 12 weeks
Posted to airport with 2.5/3 weeks to move which was worrying at first but ended absolutely fine!

This was in the...
Forum: ATC Issues
24th Jul 2018, 09:49
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

5 months?!!!!! Jesus. Our basic course was 9...

5 months?!!!!! Jesus. Our basic course was 9 weeks!
Forum: ATC Issues
22nd Jan 2018, 16:46
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

Just to explain the discrepancies - I was sent to...

Just to explain the discrepancies - I was sent to complete my NATS training at Global/Gloucestershire with 11 other students :)
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Jan 2018, 20:32
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

Interesting! As someone currently completing the...

Interesting! As someone currently completing the APS course at NATS (following having done Basic and ADI) I would urge massive caution at the idea that you will have 8-10hours per week free for...
Forum: ATC Issues
5th Jan 2017, 16:58
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

@Tiddy11 MNAsantos - excellent! Good to find...

@Tiddy11 MNAsantos - excellent! Good to find some other people on the course too.

Perhaps we should setup a fb group?
Forum: ATC Issues
3rd Jan 2017, 19:09
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

Ok thanks Crazy Voyager. I believe it is still...

Ok thanks Crazy Voyager. I believe it is still done this way too but have also heard stories of whole cohorts being put down a particular route from day 1!

Anybody else on the April course?
Forum: ATC Issues
31st Dec 2016, 10:27
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

Hi guys, has anybody starting on the January...

Hi guys, has anybody starting on the January course been told whether they are aerodrome or area route yet?
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Dec 2016, 18:28
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,755,527
Posted By Flying184

@MNAsantos I have also had the email today...

@MNAsantos I have also had the email today offering me an April start date! Very excited
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