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23rd Mar 2015, 16:12
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Posted By blackbird69

Modern BUK missile hit MH17

@ A Van
1. Only if the evidence was handled correctly the results of the RTL nieuws investigation would be admissable in court. I am quite sure that Mr Akkersmans knew how to handle this.


2....
19th Mar 2015, 22:30
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Posted By blackbird69

Evidence of BUK-Missile

Today RTLNieuws, a dutch commercial news organization claims to have proof that a BUK-missile shot down MH-17.

The journalist Jeroen Akkermans, who we know from his pictures and correspondence on...
11th Mar 2015, 23:10
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Posted By blackbird69

@Caygill You're right, but Westerbeke is the...

@Caygill
You're right, but Westerbeke is the leader of the criminal investigation, not of the DSB investigation. So he is very interested in who shot down MH17. He will not publish a report, but...
9th Mar 2015, 14:59
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Posted By blackbird69

Quote: Some national regulators did issue a ban...

Quote:
Some national regulators did issue a ban on flights e.g. FAA banned all US flights over Ukraine. Some airlines decided to avoid without waiting for regulator e.g. BA.

True, but the Dutch...
4th Mar 2015, 12:16
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Posted By blackbird69

According to Tjibbe Joustra, chairman of the DSB,...

According to Tjibbe Joustra, chairman of the DSB, the story about AIVD (dutch intelligence) not cooperating with the DSB is a hoax. See his reply here:
'AIVD werkt onderzoek naar MH17 tegen' - AD.nl...
11th Feb 2015, 12:43
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Posted By blackbird69

Kiev should have closed airspace in may?

In january the Dutch news agency brought this arctile. It stated that Kiev should have closed its airspace in May, based on 'new information' and the opninion of Nico Voorbach, former chairman of the...
10th Jan 2015, 23:16
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Posted By blackbird69

AD / Spiegel and Correctiv publish reconstruction

Dutch newspaper AD, the Der Spiegel and Correctiv have published their results on their own investigation on the downing of MH17. The AD story, in dutch can be downloaded here:
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24th Dec 2014, 20:28
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Posted By blackbird69

More on the report

Location of the field is south of Snizhne.

See the dutch report:

http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/sites/default/files/content/documents/2014/12/22/Rapport_Rookpluim_analyse_v1.0.pdf

The report...
23rd Dec 2014, 22:25
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Posted By blackbird69

According to the rtlnieuws sources there are time...

According to the rtlnieuws sources there are time and date stamp attached to the photograph which match the downing of MH17. There is a third photograph of the actual smoke cloud after the crash. The...
22nd Dec 2014, 22:21
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Posted By blackbird69

Evidence of Missile fired?

Today RTLnieuws announced that they had new photographic evidence that suggested that MH17 was shot down by a surface to air missile. These photos were taken at The photo's were taken by a local...
20th Dec 2014, 13:45
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Posted By blackbird69

Left Side at door L1

During the recovery of the wreckage this picture was made. The link is here:
Cockpit van MH17-Boeing geborgen | NOS (http://nos.nl/artikel/2004822-cockpit-van-mh17-boeing-geborgen.html)

This...
19th Dec 2014, 08:18
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Posted By blackbird69

Not misleading

In case of reports in multiple languages, it is common to designate one report as THE report in case there are differences in interpretations between different language versions. In this case the...
18th Dec 2014, 22:42
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Posted By blackbird69

Engines retain their settings when control from...

Engines retain their settings when control from the cockpit is lost. Thrust isn't changed.

Examples enough. In Tenerife the Panam set the engines on fulll power, and after the collision with...
17th Dec 2014, 22:49
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Posted By blackbird69

14th july shotdown

According to the erratum, in the original dutch report it was mentioned that it was an An-24 flying at FL210 (6.4 km)

See ...
16th Dec 2014, 09:30
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Posted By blackbird69

Yes, and the witnesses are probably staged. Their...

Yes, and the witnesses are probably staged. Their faces made inrecognisable otherwise it would be clear that these are not locals.

Further, dutch DSB employees were at the scene during recovery,...
9th Dec 2014, 20:30
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Posted By blackbird69

Ukraine closing airspace?

To come back on the lawsuit in Germany, it is all about money. Germany was chosen because its legislation is most likely to help the victims in this case. Further, their mention that Ukraine earns a...
6th Nov 2014, 21:59
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Posted By blackbird69

Recovery

Yes, they will finally recover the parts and send these to the Netherlands, probably to Eindhoven. The chairman of the DSB has already been interviewed about this.

The last few days there were a...
1st Nov 2014, 00:22
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Posted By blackbird69

It was a confusing week in the Netherlands...

It was a confusing week in the Netherlands concerning MH17.

First, now the number of identified has risen to 289. There are still remains in the Netherlands to be identified, but identification is...
24th Oct 2014, 10:09
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Posted By blackbird69

handing over the black boxes

Because some people think that the rebels were nice to hand over the FDR and CVR to the malayans, some background information might be prudent here.

First of all, shortly after the disaster, the...
24th Oct 2014, 09:44
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Posted By blackbird69

Safety of the crash site

In earlier posts I mentioned the dutch uncle that went to look for the remains of his niece, and who is still in the area. He wrote on Twitter he had to take shelter when a bomb exploded close to his...
22nd Oct 2014, 22:54
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Posted By blackbird69

@Teejoo No, the identification effort hasn't...

@Teejoo

No, the identification effort hasn't finished yet. But they will soon run out of material.

@ACMS

According to the search maps, that area has been searched but not completely by the...
21st Oct 2014, 22:49
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Posted By blackbird69

@Bathik and Teddy Robinson. 1000 posts, zero...

@Bathik and Teddy Robinson.

1000 posts, zero factual content.

I don't agree. The MH17 thread has factual content. What about the MH370 thread? The facts there could fit on a single...
23rd Sep 2014, 23:00
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Posted By blackbird69

@ Aterpster How can you safely fly over a war...

@ Aterpster
How can you safely fly over a war zone where the airspace is indeed closed below FL 320? What about an engine failure or a loss of pressurization?

A closed airspace is not...
17th Sep 2014, 21:34
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Posted By blackbird69

Mysterious $30m reward offered for MH17 evidence

In the Netherlands we think this is a hoax. The guy that is supposed to be the spokesman has not a very credible background. Sorry no link
14th Sep 2014, 22:39
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Posted By blackbird69

Frequency of SA-3 same as SA-11 - 3 cm.

Do you mean that the frequency of both systems is the same, or that it is simply in the same band? It should be exactly the same before you can make this statement.

An AWACS is not a SIGINT or...
13th Sep 2014, 22:57
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Posted By blackbird69

Latest news from the Netherlands

It was a busy news week in the Netherlands, even after the preliminary report was shared with the public.

About 100 next of kin have united themselves in 'foundation MH-17' and start putting...
10th Sep 2014, 18:07
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Posted By blackbird69

Most likely they were simply too heavy.

Most likely they were simply too heavy.
10th Sep 2014, 11:13
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Posted By blackbird69

"At least the radar echo, if not faked, is...

"At least the radar echo, if not faked, is showing another aircraft. Can be a MIG-29 or can even be anything else."

Radar echo is just what it is, an echo. Echo's could come from clutter,...
10th Sep 2014, 10:46
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Posted By blackbird69

@ silverstrata

a. Heat damage in the cockpit area is only on the outside. The co-pilots chair shows no burn mark, the carpet on the floor shows no burn marks, the business class seats we have seen show now...
10th Sep 2014, 08:46
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Posted By blackbird69

Sadly, all operators in the area use identical equipment, so finding pieces of shrapn

At least it could lead to identifying the source of the high speed fragments. That would limit the number of source type probably to a BUk missile. Despite having the same name, being in production...
10th Sep 2014, 07:50
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Posted By blackbird69

The two recorders stopped because of lack of...

The two recorders stopped because of lack of power, not because of other damage.

I didn't write it proved it, only mentioned it is even more unlikely. This is because the recorders didn't record...
9th Sep 2014, 23:02
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Posted By blackbird69

Dutch preliminary report

The dutch preliminary report did end some of the controversial theories that went around:

1. The claim that Ukraine ATC deliberately had MH-17 descend to FL330. The report states that Ukraine ATC...
7th Sep 2014, 22:42
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Posted By blackbird69

Strange is that a SA-3 is mentioned. I would...

Strange is that a SA-3 is mentioned. I would expect the tracking radar type or guidance radar type to be mentioned. And these were/are also used with other type of SAM missiles, none of them in...
31st Aug 2014, 22:10
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Posted By blackbird69

It is not uncommon that CVR tapes are not...

It is not uncommon that CVR tapes are not published completely. Do you really want all the smalltalk about last skivacation in the report?:eek:

If it is not worth it, it is not put into the...
27th Aug 2014, 14:41
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Posted By blackbird69

The public prosecution in NL is very actively...

The public prosecution in NL is very actively looking for possible criminal prosecution in aeronautical incidents and accidents

Sometimes too much. Criminal prosecution of a controller at...
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