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Forum: Cabin Crew
1st Feb 2011, 12:24
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

Fly12345. What you have reproduced is only a...

Fly12345.

What you have reproduced is only a PROMISE!! It is not binding on BF or BA in anyway. They can change their minds tomorrow.

It is like the Mixed Fleet. There is NO AGREEMENT, only a...
Forum: Cabin Crew
1st Feb 2011, 11:17
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

If none of you can work out the companies...

If none of you can work out the companies strategy and think that you will spend the rest of your careers on your current T&C's, then my observations in my last post are correct.

If you have...
Forum: Cabin Crew
1st Feb 2011, 10:58
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

The centrepiece of BA's plan to reduce costs is...

The centrepiece of BA's plan to reduce costs is to destroy the 1948 Redeployment Agreement.
In short this agreement ensures that wages and therefore pensions can never be reduced. Rather than...
Forum: Cabin Crew
1st Feb 2011, 10:51
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

Before any of you think that the PCCC is anything...

Before any of you think that the PCCC is anything but a quasi union,I would like to thank ftsu for this excellent research:


"Had a response back from a nice man at the certification office. It ...
Forum: Cabin Crew
1st Feb 2011, 10:41
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

2.9% now, but it will cost you thousands later!!!...

2.9% now, but it will cost you thousands later!!!

Ha ha. Your "contract" will only last as long as Bill Francis. You are all now exposed and isolated, just where BA want you. And what contract...
Forum: Cabin Crew
31st Jan 2011, 21:56
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

I just hope that all of you here that support the...

I just hope that all of you here that support the PCCC have signed up for Bill Francis' latest offer.

If not, why not?
Forum: Cabin Crew
31st Jan 2011, 14:08
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

I am pleased that via this thread, it has been...

I am pleased that via this thread, it has been established that the PCCC is indeed a quasi union.
Forum: Cabin Crew
31st Jan 2011, 14:06
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

BA shut down the offices of BASSA and denied the...

BA shut down the offices of BASSA and denied the reps and leaders of the union, the ability to function. It was a deliberate union busting strategy.

DH has a responsibility to represent as...
Forum: Cabin Crew
31st Jan 2011, 13:37
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

Gay Gourmet. You are right. BASSA cannot...

Gay Gourmet. You are right.

BASSA cannot defend anyone who BA is determined to sack, even the Secretary.

Only an Industrial Tribual will be able to determine if IFCE played fair and that the...
Forum: Cabin Crew
31st Jan 2011, 12:19
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

Excellent research ftsu.

Excellent research ftsu.
Forum: Cabin Crew
31st Jan 2011, 12:06
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

Wibbly. The type of cars some crew may drive or...

Wibbly. The type of cars some crew may drive or have parked at Bedfont is a superfluous observation, that only gives someone like myself who has studied psychology, an insight into your personality....
Forum: Cabin Crew
31st Jan 2011, 11:53
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

Mesmer. I have BA's Offer in front of me from the...

Mesmer. I have BA's Offer in front of me from the Way Forward Agreement of April 2010. It states:


"There will be a separate mixed flying fleet for new crew, with separate terms and conditions...
Forum: Cabin Crew
31st Jan 2011, 11:28
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

So here is Weeblestrim wading and lowering the...

So here is Weeblestrim wading and lowering the tone of the debate, by dragging in his personal jealousies over what cars a few cabin crew happen to drive.

You must leave such bias and vitriol out...
Forum: Cabin Crew
31st Jan 2011, 11:11
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

I want to know who is backing the PCCC? Who...

I want to know who is backing the PCCC?

Who has paid for the website?

Who stumped up the £150 to register it as trades union?

As I have stated, the PCCC has been set up under the "auspices"...
Forum: Cabin Crew
31st Jan 2011, 09:32
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

Chigley. It is no good trying to manipulate the...

Chigley. It is no good trying to manipulate the truth.

BASSA were never going to negotiate any deal for the MF becuase they were and are, against the setting up of a entirely new fleet on new...
Forum: Cabin Crew
31st Jan 2011, 09:23
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

Who is paying the bills at the PCCC. Who paid the...

Who is paying the bills at the PCCC. Who paid the £150 registration fee?

What are the names of the crew who are proposing to put themselves forward as reps, Secretary, Chairman.

Come on....
Forum: Cabin Crew
30th Jan 2011, 22:35
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

It is not clear at all, that there is any desire...

It is not clear at all, that there is any desire by the BA cabin crew workforce for another union. History has shown that BA will use a "sympathetic" union to push through its agenda.

As members...
Forum: Cabin Crew
30th Jan 2011, 22:23
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

OK Then. Who are the people setting up the PCCC? ...

OK Then. Who are the people setting up the PCCC?

Names please.

There is no union for MF crew, as that is the last thing that BA wants. If there had of been union involvement in the setting up...
Forum: Cabin Crew
30th Jan 2011, 21:48
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

I don't think there is any point in getting too...

I don't think there is any point in getting too excited about the PCCC. Even if you do not agree with BASSA, most people would want to join an effective union that will support them through...
Forum: Cabin Crew
30th Jan 2011, 21:11
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,561,830
Posted By CCCP

Holley should win his tribunal. It was...

Holley should win his tribunal.

It was clearly a case of constructive dismissal
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