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Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
11th May 2011, 09:21
Replies: 993
Views: 170,298
Posted By just an observer

Betty Girl, I gathered from other posts that BA...

Betty Girl, I gathered from other posts that BA have overestimated the extent of part time take up, and in any event, probably are not averse to being overstaffed in the short term while the threat...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
11th May 2011, 01:30
Replies: 993
Views: 170,298
Posted By just an observer

AV F, I don't disagree with you, this is why I...

AV F, I don't disagree with you, this is why I said BA, by continuing to negotiate, may have handed BASSA enough rope to hang themselves. BA seem happy to play a long game, which would presumably be...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
10th May 2011, 23:15
Replies: 993
Views: 170,298
Posted By just an observer

As no one actually knows what the branch meetings...

As no one actually knows what the branch meetings will bring forth (whatever we may suspect), BA can't really do anything other than continue to negotiate in good faith.

If BASSA/CC89 agree the...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
10th May 2011, 12:49
Replies: 993
Views: 170,298
Posted By just an observer

According to cabincrew.com, the CC concerned...

According to cabincrew.com, the CC concerned refused to remove the tags after being told by the aircraft captain to do so, so it is likely the suspension is for questioning/refusing the captain's...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
29th Mar 2011, 11:53
Replies: 993
Views: 170,298
Posted By just an observer

Further to my final sentence/question, on...

Further to my final sentence/question, on googling around I found this ACAS arbitration scheme Q&A Acas - Acas Arbitration Scheme Q&A (http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=2007)

In a case...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
29th Mar 2011, 11:45
Replies: 993
Views: 170,298
Posted By just an observer

my bold BA did offer ACAS arbitration in...

my bold

BA did offer ACAS arbitration in the October 2010 offer, see extract below. And no, CC weren't allowed to vote on it.


Unite and British Airways agree that if any employee who has...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
24th Mar 2011, 18:04
Replies: 993
Views: 170,298
Posted By just an observer

I'd guess BASSA will still have a majority of yes...

I'd guess BASSA will still have a majority of yes votes amongst those who vote at all, but that the overall vote will be down again, and I would also guess that as the total number of yes votes go...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
9th Mar 2011, 09:59
Replies: 1,094
Views: 166,131
Posted By just an observer

my bold I agree re BA 'sitting it out'. ...

my bold

I agree re BA 'sitting it out'.

As for IA on any future date, there may be no future date. It is noticeable that ever since the last BA Engineering strike, when BA had contingency...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
7th Mar 2011, 08:21
Replies: 1,094
Views: 166,131
Posted By just an observer

Would issuing a 90 day SOSR notice actually...

Would issuing a 90 day SOSR notice actually settle the dispute? The 10 points that are listed on the current ballot would mostly still be there even if CC have accepted the contract currently on...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
7th Mar 2011, 07:24
Replies: 1,094
Views: 166,131
Posted By just an observer

Litebulbs, I agree that BA would have to say...

Litebulbs, I agree that BA would have to say something like 'we consider this strike to be unprotected, thus withdrawal of labour will constitute a breach of contract, and therefore will instigate...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
7th Mar 2011, 00:06
Replies: 1,094
Views: 166,131
Posted By just an observer

Throughout, BA has only done what it said it will...

Throughout, BA has only done what it said it will do. The company has been careful to do this, including paying the bonus to staff who have been on strike, simply because they did not warn beforehand...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
6th Mar 2011, 19:29
Replies: 1,094
Views: 166,131
Posted By just an observer

I agree with this. BA will not go to the ultimate...

I agree with this. BA will not go to the ultimate sanction against strikers, but they may sue Unite. Unite know this, hence the 'wierd and wonderful' alternates to strikes postulated by McCluskey.
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
9th Feb 2011, 10:54
Replies: 1,094
Views: 166,131
Posted By just an observer

I wouldn't have thought the ERS would have a view...

I wouldn't have thought the ERS would have a view on the legality of the ballot if it were potentially illegal because of the actual questions asked being linked to a previous strike vote. They (ERS)...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
6th Feb 2011, 14:47
Replies: 1,094
Views: 166,131
Posted By just an observer

Some of the reduction in crew 'numbers', so far...

Some of the reduction in crew 'numbers', so far as crew complements are concerned, in December 2009, and since, occurred because existing full time crew took part time. These and any other part time...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
28th Jan 2011, 09:40
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

I would have thought the Board having direct...

I would have thought the Board having direct input from the 'shop floor' as it were, would be a bonus in a large company, where normally they would have to rely on info 'trickling up' via middle...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
24th Jan 2011, 16:11
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

BbB re your comment I didn't suggest...

BbB re your comment



I didn't suggest an unconditional return, I said on agreement or on 1 April 2011 (which is the start of a new annual leave year) by which I meant if agreement happens...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
24th Jan 2011, 11:48
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

It does seem to be true that for most crew, the...

It does seem to be true that for most crew, the crewing levels, the original strike reason, have been accepted.

As mariner9 said, what they would want is



All this was offered 8 or 9...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
14th Jan 2011, 16:45
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

As I understand it, to have had new joiners...

As I understand it, to have had new joiners integrated with existing CC, existing CC would have had to accept a reduction in the payments made for trips/allowances etc, more realistic 'disruption',...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
11th Jan 2011, 09:44
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

My husband, who is a member of Unite, works for...

My husband, who is a member of Unite, works for BA but is not CC, did know about the survey, but hadn't heard the result. He doesn't know any CC, and didn't get the survey himself, so presumably...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
10th Jan 2011, 21:00
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

Re the Unite survey, there's a few bits of info...

Re the Unite survey, there's a few bits of info I'd like to see included, such as -

1. Did they send surveys to BA staff in the proportion of any one department to the total employees? Ie, CC are...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
10th Dec 2010, 11:34
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

I doubt there are laws in HK/China that women...

I doubt there are laws in HK/China that women should retire at 45, CC or otherwise. If it's only the enforced retirement that this court case is about, good luck to them.
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
8th Dec 2010, 09:41
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

I Googled the heading of the above article, and...

I Googled the heading of the above article, and found a Unison info sheet from a University branch, which says the info is taken from the Unison Industrial Action handbook. The bit about SSP is...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
2nd Dec 2010, 14:09
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

As I understand it CC have historically had a...

As I understand it CC have historically had a habit of going sick rather than on strike, which is why it was well publicised in advance that being sick would be regarded as being on strike - unless...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
30th Nov 2010, 07:43
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

I've just listened to TW on the radio link, right...

I've just listened to TW on the radio link, right at the end, he says BA's last offer which was 'reluctantly' acceptable to himself and his shop stewards, was not acceptable to the CC in general!!...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
13th Nov 2010, 12:54
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

I take your point, I hadn't thought of that. ...

I take your point, I hadn't thought of that.

I am still of the opinion that BA won't go that route, for the other reasons I said.

It was a hypothetical situation anyway, and if,...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
13th Nov 2010, 11:43
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

It has been answered, by the very person you are...

It has been answered, by the very person you are having a go at. The fact that you don't agree with her, does not negate the fact that she replied.
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
13th Nov 2010, 10:47
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

I doubt there are any airline employees anywhere...

I doubt there are any airline employees anywhere in the world who would not know what staff travel is. Workers employed via an agency may not get it, but they'd certainly be aware of it. Do you think...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
13th Nov 2010, 09:44
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

Bettygirl, don't leave this thread, Chuchinchow...

Bettygirl, don't leave this thread, Chuchinchow is in a distinct minority almost all of us are pleased to have actual CC putting their point of view directly to us, and giving us the chance to ask...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
13th Nov 2010, 09:40
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

If, for arguments sake, we accept that BA cannot...

If, for arguments sake, we accept that BA cannot SOSR certain contracts only, and have to do the same to the entire CC workforce, offering the same new contract to all, then I am pretty confident...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
12th Nov 2010, 22:40
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

That's a pity :) I did Google on that point...

That's a pity :)

I did Google on that point but couldn't find anything in the short time I gave myself.
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
12th Nov 2010, 22:33
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

In fact, if BA did offer the same contract under...

In fact, if BA did offer the same contract under SOSR that the non union staff have signed, non striking but in the union CC would be pretty much as they are now, with most of their existing T&Cs,...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
12th Nov 2010, 21:58
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

Surely if BA do eventually go the SOSR route, the...

Surely if BA do eventually go the SOSR route, the contract on offer would be the one Bettygirl and other non union staff signed earlier this year. So why should she have anything to worry about?
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
12th Nov 2010, 15:15
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

Dual Ground, the lady who 'complained' about the...

Dual Ground, the lady who 'complained' about the hats has left BASSA, prior to the strike, she is not one of the obtuse who swallow the BASSA line. She does not deserve your comments.

The point...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
9th Nov 2010, 09:46
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

It wasn't so much a desire to be seen to be nice,...

It wasn't so much a desire to be seen to be nice, as fear of the consequences of strike action in one of the areas where flying could be stopped by a strike. BA took the easy way out, gave CC what...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
7th Nov 2010, 14:42
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,863
Posted By just an observer

Well as treasurer of my club I pay 'out of...

Well as treasurer of my club I pay 'out of pocket' expenses - they give me a receipt and I repay them what they have expended (out of their own pocket) on the club's behalf.

That is not the same...
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