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18th May 2009, 21:14
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

It might just be worth pointing out that there is...

It might just be worth pointing out that there is quite a difference between a 'test' and a 'run' and clearly you can only configure an aircraft for flight that is fit to do so. The other point, of...
8th May 2009, 20:16
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Sorry BEagle. I din't make my point very clear. I...

Sorry BEagle. I din't make my point very clear. I thought the smoke on the ground unusual but put it down to being normal for the Victor. I was, however, suprised that it continued with the aircraft...
8th May 2009, 19:55
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

That is exactly what I noticed. Looked like a lot...

That is exactly what I noticed. Looked like a lot of smoke coming from the region of the No 3 engine before the run started. Of course that may have just been the perspective I had. Or of course,...
8th May 2009, 19:37
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

VictorPilot, Why all the cloak and dagger...

VictorPilot,

Why all the cloak and dagger stuff? Can't you just knock it on the head and tell everyone what happened? It's obvious as to who you are...

If you can't do that yet, maybe you...
7th May 2009, 04:45
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

May I just point out that all this talk about a...

May I just point out that all this talk about a strong x-wind is a red herring. It was windy, but not that windy. May I also point out that if the wind WAS outside the x-wind limits of an aircraft...
6th May 2009, 18:15
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

...and that if temptation gets the better of you,...

...and that if temptation gets the better of you, you are running a great risk of catching something nasty. That or you'll get caught upto no good and get thrown out!

I like this anology!!
6th May 2009, 08:15
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Well no, not neccesarily.

Well no, not neccesarily.
6th May 2009, 07:49
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Given some of the responses since my last post,...

Given some of the responses since my last post, and in the interests of fairplay, i'd just like to re-iterate and expand briefly on a point I made earlier;



If this were the case, and it...
5th May 2009, 21:28
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

I can't help but feel I’m repeating myself a bit...

I can't help but feel I’m repeating myself a bit so I won't say much more on the subject after this.

Firstly, the 'pub talk' you refer to came from a posting the guy 'flying' the aircraft on...
5th May 2009, 18:15
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

forget, The problem is that this isn't a...

forget,

The problem is that this isn't a one off. I'm not getting into this again but some very precursory searching around the net can find references to this aircraft having been pushed to...
5th May 2009, 15:36
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

I sincerely hope the CAA are sensible about it,...

I sincerely hope the CAA are sensible about it, knuckles are wrapped (and not much more) where appropriate and the days carry on as before albeit under the sort of regulation that has made commerical...
5th May 2009, 13:42
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

...don't post it on a public forum in the first...

...don't post it on a public forum in the first place, alongside the sort of stuff that was mentioned. Just a thought.

Anyway, I was a bit naiive and I was wrong so I apologise to SD and Pop.
...
5th May 2009, 09:34
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Well, I would have said that from the second this...

Well, I would have said that from the second this thing became airborne it was barely under control. As such I would have said the fact that this didn't end up in a smoking wreck was pure luck.

...
4th May 2009, 21:53
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

I'm afraid to say that you've most likely hit the...

I'm afraid to say that you've most likely hit the nail on the head.

There are a couple of questions i'd be very interested to know the answers to and hopefully answers to those questions will...
4th May 2009, 20:50
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Well, you never know, someone might find it...

Well, you never know, someone might find it useful.

Anyway, back to the original point. The above information when combined with any unforeseen circumstance such as a tyre burst or an engine...
4th May 2009, 20:36
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

I'm not the best at trying to explain this sort...

I'm not the best at trying to explain this sort of thing but it is down to an aircrafts tendancy to 'weather-vane'. For example, a cross-wind like yesterdays was blowing right to left across the...
4th May 2009, 20:22
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Andrew, Exactly that. During a x-wind...

Andrew,

Exactly that. During a x-wind takeoff you are effectively taking off with crossed controls to prevent the into wind wing lifting. If you watch a x-wind landing on youtube, during the...
4th May 2009, 20:09
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Fair question. You would need directional...

Fair question.

You would need directional control firstly (i.e rudder), but more so any element of a x-wind requires working flying controls so as to prevent the into-wind wing from lifting...
4th May 2009, 18:52
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Croqueteer, Cool. I'm not looking to argue...

Croqueteer,

Cool. I'm not looking to argue with you. Please be assured I am what I say I am.

The last photo that shaft has posted gives a better indication of exactly why I think this...
4th May 2009, 17:41
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Croqueteer, no, 'can't be bothered to...

Croqueteer,

no, 'can't be bothered to argue' means just that.

I can only assume you're talking about something you didn't see, have not seen footage of and are, therefore, talking from a...
4th May 2009, 17:20
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Noted Pop. Just to say that it was a 'fast...

Noted Pop.

Just to say that it was a 'fast taxi run'. An aircraft which is not airworthy became airborne. In my eyes that is a cock up and as I was there, and saw it close to the limit of...
4th May 2009, 17:08
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Croqueteer, Whatever. I'm not contributing...

Croqueteer,

Whatever. I'm not contributing to this to convince you of whether or not i'm a pilot. If you are seriously suggesting that it is sensible to get an aircraft that size into the air...
4th May 2009, 16:25
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Speculating in public is not what I intended to...

Speculating in public is not what I intended to do so I won't. However, in response to the above point, no that's not what i'm saying.

What i'm saying is that the aircraft should NEVER have got...
4th May 2009, 15:50
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Yes, but with respect, a Viscount is not a heavy...

Yes, but with respect, a Viscount is not a heavy 4 engined jet and you simply don't/can't do that in a jet.

To do so is to push your luck beyond its design limits.
4th May 2009, 14:57
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

I see what you're saying Yellow Sun but I guess...

I see what you're saying Yellow Sun but I guess in this instance it becomes a CAA issue the second that thing got airborne.

Everything else in your post is bang on. You can imagine my suprise...
4th May 2009, 13:34
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

I sincerely hope that that is the case. Trying to...

I sincerely hope that that is the case. Trying to hush this up will do nothing for their credibility when the CAA inevitably find out.
4th May 2009, 12:51
Replies: 339
Views: 158,278
Posted By coldplayer

Well, I was there and I saw what happened and, as...

Well, I was there and I saw what happened and, as an airline pilot, I would have said the interests of the organisers would be best served by coming clean with the CAA. It was a great day and it...
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