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Forum: Military Aviation
20th Jan 2024, 10:22
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

One further related point.... Some years...

One further related point....

Some years before the Shoreham (and Gnat) accidents I remember seeing the Hunter (and also the Jet Provost) being displayed at Old Warden on several occasions. From...
Forum: Military Aviation
20th Jan 2024, 10:15
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Thanks for that. However my points relating to it...

Thanks for that. However my points relating to it remain and I still feel that in many respects (apart obviously from the outcome) it raised even more concerning issues than Shoreham, yet has...
Forum: Military Aviation
20th Jan 2024, 06:35
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

I don't think anybody is saying that they did. ...

I don't think anybody is saying that they did.

However, the accident has served to highlight a whole number of safety issues / failings that otherwise may not have been noticed. I assume you are...
Forum: Military Aviation
19th Jan 2024, 12:32
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

The emergency services had to deal with a badly...

The emergency services had to deal with a badly injured pilot who was still strapped to a live ejection seat. Presumably expired cartridges are potentially more unstable and dangerous than ones that...
Forum: Military Aviation
3rd Jan 2024, 08:24
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

So a fractional difference in the Gnat's...

So a fractional difference in the Gnat's trajectory and the result could have been even more tragic than Shoreham?

If I remember correctly (and it is a few years since I read the report) the...
Forum: Military Aviation
3rd Jan 2024, 08:08
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Exactly ^^^^^^^

Exactly ^^^^^^^
Forum: Military Aviation
29th Dec 2023, 07:59
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

I would hope they do. However you only have to...

I would hope they do. However you only have to look a threads like this to see how it suits some peoples' agenda to heap all the blame on one individual rather than look at the whole picture.

"A...
Forum: Military Aviation
29th Dec 2023, 06:53
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Nobody can! As a CAA medical examiner round...

Nobody can!

As a CAA medical examiner round here used to say to private pilots "Well I'm pleased to say you have passed but of course that doesn't guarantee you won't die on the way home"!
Forum: Military Aviation
29th Dec 2023, 06:15
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

No, normally they don't. Still less does a...

No, normally they don't.

Still less does a driver who is is acquitted of any crime - which is the situation with Mr Hill!

Assuming he passes the required medical and any flight tests that are...
Forum: Military Aviation
28th Dec 2023, 18:10
Replies: 256
Views: 98,609
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Oh come on! There have been persistent rumours...

Oh come on! There have been persistent rumours for twenty years or more!
Forum: Military Aviation
28th Dec 2023, 17:58
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

But, with very few exceptions (which do not apply...

But, with very few exceptions (which do not apply here) you cannot be prosecuted again for the same offence. He was acquitted unanimously by the jury so that is the end of the (criminal) matter.
...
Forum: Military Aviation
28th Dec 2023, 17:15
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Yes and yes. Normally six years (five if it...

Yes and yes.

Normally six years (five if it had happened in Scotland)!

Different rules apply and a civil case is decided on the balance of probabilities. But, just because a tragedy happened...
Forum: Military Aviation
28th Dec 2023, 15:42
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

No he couldn't! You cannot be found "guilty" in a...

No he couldn't! You cannot be found "guilty" in a civil court. He might (or might not) be found liable in a civil capacity but as any liability would be met by his insurers it would no doubt be...
Forum: Military Aviation
23rd Dec 2022, 10:52
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

I would largely agree but put it somewhat...

I would largely agree but put it somewhat stronger and also ask the unwelcome / unthinkable question....

Is it really possible, both technically and economically, to keep these types of historic...
Forum: Military Aviation
22nd Dec 2022, 13:34
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

It doesn't mean it was the wrong verdict either. ...

It doesn't mean it was the wrong verdict either.

The jury, selected at random, who unlike you heard all the evidence did not consider the case proved beyond reasonable doubt. That is not guilty...
Forum: Military Aviation
21st Dec 2022, 14:47
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

No and no. For the reasons stated in my post...

No and no.

For the reasons stated in my post above.
Forum: Military Aviation
21st Dec 2022, 14:42
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

There may be civil claims for damages but there...

There may be civil claims for damages but there cannot be a "civil prosecution". Very rarely there can be a "private prosecution" but not in this case. With very few exceptions, which wouldn't apply...
Forum: Military Aviation
9th Dec 2022, 13:37
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Maybe so. It is not exactly popular with some of...

Maybe so. It is not exactly popular with some of the the locals at Old Warden. Particularly as it is seven or eight times a year!

However, if an objective risk assessment says the road needs to be...
Forum: Military Aviation
9th Dec 2022, 11:14
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Exactly ^^^^ A pilot in a single engine...

Exactly ^^^^

A pilot in a single engine plane is one human being. As such there is always the possibility of a mistake or incapacity and if that happens sometimes the consequences can be...
Forum: Military Aviation
9th Dec 2022, 08:11
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

It is difficult to see how a "discussion" which...

It is difficult to see how a "discussion" which ultimately didn't lead to any action was relevant to either.

In any case how could they possibly have discussed it and made a stop call in time? One...
Forum: Military Aviation
7th Dec 2022, 18:01
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Evidence seems to be touching upon some of the...

Evidence seems to be touching upon some of the points I made in my previous post.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-63876398
Forum: Military Aviation
4th Dec 2022, 15:10
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Well you could apply that argument to any death,...

Well you could apply that argument to any death, other than the driver, in a road traffic accident.

In the particular case we are discussing how wide would you spread the net? Just a few...
Forum: Military Aviation
4th Dec 2022, 14:54
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

The coroner can direct the jury that certain...

The coroner can direct the jury that certain verdicts are not appropriate in law, for the case before them, so cannot be used. Sometimes that can mean that only one verdict can reasonably be reached...
Forum: Military Aviation
4th Dec 2022, 06:58
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

It is relatively uncommon these days for an...

It is relatively uncommon these days for an inquest to be held before a jury.

Unless there have been any changes that I am unaware of, this inquest will be heard by the coroner sitting alone.
...
Forum: Military Aviation
1st Dec 2022, 14:47
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

The Coroner also explained that the high court...

The Coroner also explained that the high court had refused her request for access to the cockpit video. The reasons are explained in the greatest detail in the following judgement.....
...
Forum: Military Aviation
1st Dec 2022, 11:10
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-63813...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-63813366
Forum: Military Aviation
30th Nov 2022, 15:35
Replies: 1,144
Views: 615,860
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Indeed. Also respect that fact that a jury...

Indeed.

Also respect that fact that a jury who, unlike everybody on here heard all the evidence, unanimously found the pilot not guilty on all charges.
Forum: Military Aviation
26th Nov 2022, 09:11
Replies: 442
Views: 170,608
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

If only it were just "a couple". Stories along...

If only it were just "a couple". Stories along these lines go back literally decades but have always been swept under the carpet. Sadly I have no doubt the current ones would have been covered up too...
Forum: Military Aviation
26th Nov 2022, 05:46
Replies: 442
Views: 170,608
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

And the latest instalment

This time claiming to have evidence of the attempts to cover up......
...
Forum: Military Aviation
23rd Nov 2022, 10:46
Replies: 442
Views: 170,608
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Indeed. Which sadly makes it almost certain...

Indeed.

Which sadly makes it almost certain not to happen!
Forum: Military Aviation
23rd Nov 2022, 08:34
Replies: 442
Views: 170,608
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Exactly this ^^^^^^

Exactly this ^^^^^^
Forum: Military Aviation
22nd Nov 2022, 20:12
Replies: 442
Views: 170,608
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Disgraceful ???? No, far from it....

Disgraceful ????

No, far from it. Inconvenient maybe but it seems to hit the nail on the head perfectly!
Forum: Military Aviation
22nd Nov 2022, 19:59
Replies: 442
Views: 170,608
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Indeed but there have been plenty of rumours and...

Indeed but there have been plenty of rumours and stories along the current lines going right back to the days when they flew Gnats. The difference being it was easier and sadly more acceptable to...
Forum: Military Aviation
20th Nov 2022, 11:27
Replies: 442
Views: 170,608
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Will we? The impression I get is that the...

Will we?

The impression I get is that the keen aviation / air show "enthusiasts" in the UK are not particular fans of the Red Arrows. Yes, they have a considerable popular appeal amongst the more...
Forum: Military Aviation
19th Nov 2022, 09:21
Replies: 442
Views: 170,608
Posted By Thoughtful_Flyer

Royal Air Force Aerobatics team - unacceptable...

Royal Air Force Aerobatics team - unacceptable behaviours statement

Following allegations from individuals within the RAF Aerobatics Team (The Red Arrows), an Inquiry was initiated that revealed a...
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