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CRMfella 5th Oct 2012 16:35

In the NOTECH BEH Marker system, under what circumstance can both Capt and FO fail their CRM?.

If there is a technical sequence is recorded, eg EGPWS trigger, can only the CAPT fail his CRM as he is the commander and therefore responsible?

Non-PC Plod 13th Oct 2012 18:23

I guess when you refer to "failing CRM", you are referring to a line check. Under normal NOTECH guidelines, you would not fail the line check unless there are technical consequences. It may, however, be noted that there are unacceptable non-technical skills, and the consequences of this will be down to the individual company/organization procedures.
Whether the non-technical skills failures are down to the captain or the copilot (or both) will be for the trainer/examiner to determine.

Piltdown Man 20th Oct 2012 19:32

What on earth is a NOTECH BEH Marker system?

PM

Lord Spandex Masher 20th Oct 2012 19:35


Originally Posted by Non-PC Plod (Post 7465338)
I guess when you refer to "failing CRM", you are referring to a line check. Under normal NOTECH guidelines, you would not fail the line check unless there are technical consequences. It may, however, be noted that there are unacceptable non-technical skills, and the consequences of this will be down to the individual company/organization procedures.
Whether the non-technical skills failures are down to the captain or the copilot (or both) will be for the trainer/examiner to determine.

Captain at my former airline failed an LPC/OPC because of poor CRM despite achieveing the desired outcome of the sim detail.

Non-PC Plod 21st Oct 2012 17:33

A behavioual marker system is a way of assessing non-technical skills in the cockpit.

Spandex- I guess its up to each individual airline what their pass and fail criteria are for an OPC.


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