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johns7022 8th Dec 2010 19:32

Derated / Assumed Thrust Departures
 
Educate me.

mutt 8th Dec 2010 19:44

Look in the Tech Forum, this is a common subject.

Mutt

SNS3Guppy 10th Dec 2010 10:13


Educate me.
Not really possible in your case, I'm afraid.

johns7022 10th Dec 2010 20:59

Guppy you live in a world of internet forums...where the ability to hide, the tempo, perfectly suits your style of banter...in an airport lounge...you can't run away...you would have to sit there and answer the question right in front of the line guys, other pilots...and using the Socratic method...I, you, and everyone else would quickly and positively come to the inevitable conclusion about your aviation knowledge.

This thread is about De Rated departures...your certainly welcome to take the bait and explain to everyone why you would put 200 passengers father down the runway in order to save some money on engine overhauls..

Come on Mr. Expert...explain the logic of this.

galaxy flyer 10th Dec 2010 23:04

It is not De Rated, it's derate. As in, an alternative thrust rating. Lots of good reasons--better runway performance thru reduced Vmcg, for one. But, you don't understand performance, are not willing to learn; I'll stop here and let you use SEARCH

GF

johns7022 11th Dec 2010 01:38

Galaxy..if I want to call it a de-rated thrust departure, assumed thrust departure, and reduced power departure, or a 'I am a robot who just doesn't want to lose his job departure'

It's all the same...now stop dancing around the subject, stop evading...bring all that aeronautical expertise and show me why these types of ops make sense to you guys.

Lord Spandex Masher 11th Dec 2010 01:42

Well actually there is a big difference between derated and flex (assumed temperature).

Lord Spandex Masher 11th Dec 2010 01:53

Do I hear the sound of furious googling?

galaxy flyer 11th Dec 2010 01:58

Well, johns7022,SinglePilotCaptain, ssg, or whatever name you want to go by, do you understand the role Vmcg plays in take-off performance? There is a huge difference between derate and reduced power, I'd suggest doing some searching, first.

GF

johns7022 11th Dec 2010 02:15

Well I am still waiting.....everyone run off?...where are all the experts to discuss this topic?

Just dodging? Just parries? Calling the mods to get me kicked off?

Little girls.....

galaxy flyer 11th Dec 2010 02:40

Use the SEARCH function, first.

johns7022 11th Dec 2010 04:13

Galaxy....again another impressive post, that really sums up in its simplicity.....a solid picture of your aviation knowledge.

Brian Abraham 11th Dec 2010 04:46

G'day yar dill. You could start by reading the thread you started in your ssg guise.

http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/32732...offs-safe.html

Mods, I think you could close this one. Plowing an old paddock an all that.

johns7022 12th Dec 2010 00:38

No don't close the thread..Brian is going to elaborate on Assumed thrust departures...two days and he hasn't said anything...we are waiting Brian?

To much Fosters today?

galaxy flyer 12th Dec 2010 01:23

Johns7022

Do us all a favor and review the linked thread above...it pretty clearly shows everyone just how ignorant of basic performance and certification you are. I reviewed it, was reminded of a few things from experts and how supercilious you are.

GF

Brian Abraham 12th Dec 2010 02:02


Brian is going to elaborate on Assumed thrust departures
No I ain't because it's not a subject I know anything about. I leave that to the guys who know what they are talking about, such as BOAC, 411A, Old Smokey, galaxy flyer, John Tullamarine, among others.

I'll just call you out on any of your crap that I know to be bull****e.

galaxy flyer 12th Dec 2010 02:19

Your diligence to the truth is admired, but this could be a never-ending task.

GF :ugh:

john_tullamarine 12th Dec 2010 18:59

We can probably, with some benefit, retire this thread at this stage.


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