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Old 12th Jan 2014, 17:28
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Recently, I had a F/O pull out a newspaper on me in the middle of an annual route proficiency check. How's that for audacity.
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Old 12th Jan 2014, 18:02
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You ran out of questions or?
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Old 12th Jan 2014, 18:20
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No, I was in the left seat, and I wanted to see if the check captain was going to say something and he didn't. I was hoping for something to come out during the de-briefing, but it didn't. Next time, I think I will politely say I don't think it's really on to pull out a newspaper during a check flight.
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Old 12th Jan 2014, 18:34
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What about the check captain pulling out newspapers already on the ground, getting bored by them and falling asleep right after gear up to wake up on touchdown 2,5 hours later? Not to mention that he was the postholder training as well. And yes, although he complained about the touchdown (because it woke him up) we both passed...
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Old 13th Jan 2014, 00:44
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When I first joined my airline (over 25 years ago). Reading in the cockpit was not that uncommon. But so was smoking.

FAST FORWARD to more automatic jets and VP flying (that's vice president of flying) in the jumpseat of some guy flying from california to back east.

Captain was reading a novel. Plane flying fine, making turns on airways etc. Two hours into the fight, VP flying asks the captain: what state are we over?

SILENCE.

He didn't know.

Soon after we got a memo: NO MORE READING in the cockpit.

WE also stopped the smoking.

I THINK not concentrating on your flight is just asking for a problem. I was reading another thread where one pilot indicated he was always looking for places to land. Another said this was to be ridiculed.

IT is obvious to me who the better pilot is. YOU take care of YOUR flight before anything else.
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Old 15th Jan 2014, 11:10
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Has the stopping of smoking in the cockpit made your crews more aware of which State they are flying over?

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Old 16th Jan 2014, 01:09
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Originally Posted by Piltdown Man
Has the stopping of smoking in the cockpit made your crews more aware of which State they are flying over?

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It at least makes for better cockpit visibility so you can look out the windows hoping to find a landmark a bit more easily
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 17:50
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Nah ...the newspapers serve as a sunshield so looking out the window is not an option.
Maybe looking in the Navdata to see which the navaid you are passing over might work ?
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 18:36
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Read a study recently that claimed that anything that keeps pilots mentally engaged is a good thing as the alternative is that they are in danger of falling asleep out of pure boredom. And reading newspapers can serve as a means to keep a minimal level of mental engagement going, however reading books (apart from company manuals) is usually frowned upon, as is playing computer games, especially networked games with your colleague on the other side.

As we use iPads for company training and documentations now i just keep my flight subscription on that as well and peruse the jobs section during especially boring times.
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Old 1st Feb 2014, 11:46
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I've always felt that the sign of a good line check is when the check Captain gets out his newspaper.

Joking aside, I have read this thread and must admit that I do not have a problem with pilots reading in the cruise provided they maintain a good degree of situational awareness. This IS possible.

In my experience, 95% of pilots read in the cruise on a regular basis with no obvious negative effect. Moreover, the vast majority of missed RT calls or loss of situational or temporal awareness is actually the result of intense conversations - work-related or casual - between pilots.

Where is the evidence that reading inflight is dangerous?

Surely reading, talking or taking photographs is ok if the circumstances permit it to be done without impinging on safety or in-flight procedures? There is a time and a place for everything.
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Old 1st Feb 2014, 23:28
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Gyro Nut resurrected a four year old thread.
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Old 3rd Feb 2014, 18:01
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Next time some little whippersnapper pulls out a newspaper on a check flight just fail the auto pilot on him for the remainder of the sector.
That should sort out his attitude problem.
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Old 9th Feb 2014, 21:23
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...just fail the auto pilot on him for the remainder of the sector.
Which leaves the aircraft with an idiot in the left seat. This action is more crass than letting matey boy read; for so many reasons.

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Old 18th Feb 2014, 23:32
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Notice the original bloke says thats hes an Aussie ?

Aussies think they are laid back - but are in fact some of the most uptight and anal micro-managing pilots ive flown with !
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