FedEx plane off runway on landing in Lubbock Texas
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I don't think its us to judge to continue or go around. As the saying goes we were not there. However, speed is always your friend... especially with an 11,000' runway ahead of you.
Good news is that the families still have their loved ones on the planet.
Good news is that the families still have their loved ones on the planet.
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Twenty years after it was invented its clear that CRM is still something that some operators just pay lip service to implementing.
Alter cockpit leadership style, NTSB urges in Lubbock crash report | Lubbock Online | Lubbock Avalanche-Journal
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The NTSB recommends to the Federal Aviation Administration that pilots and first officers undergo simulator or role-playing exercises “that teach first officers to assertively voice their concerns, and that teach captains to develop a leadership style that supports first officer assertiveness.”
The report summary notes the first officer recognized the problem and asked the captain if they should perform a go-around, which was the correct move.
It says her failure to press the issue “likely resulted from the steep authority gradient in the cockpit, and the first officer’s minimal training on assertiveness; further the captain’s quick dismissal of the first officer’s go-around inquiry likely discouraged the first officer from voicing her continued opinions and challenging the captain’s decision to continue the unstabilized approach.”
The report also was critical that the captain’s preoccupation with resolving the problem with the flaps kept him from calling out the airspeed changes to the first officer, who was flying the plane.
See the video here:
NTSB - Lubbock, TX
Alter cockpit leadership style, NTSB urges in Lubbock crash report | Lubbock Online | Lubbock Avalanche-Journal
Quote:
The NTSB recommends to the Federal Aviation Administration that pilots and first officers undergo simulator or role-playing exercises “that teach first officers to assertively voice their concerns, and that teach captains to develop a leadership style that supports first officer assertiveness.”
The report summary notes the first officer recognized the problem and asked the captain if they should perform a go-around, which was the correct move.
It says her failure to press the issue “likely resulted from the steep authority gradient in the cockpit, and the first officer’s minimal training on assertiveness; further the captain’s quick dismissal of the first officer’s go-around inquiry likely discouraged the first officer from voicing her continued opinions and challenging the captain’s decision to continue the unstabilized approach.”
The report also was critical that the captain’s preoccupation with resolving the problem with the flaps kept him from calling out the airspeed changes to the first officer, who was flying the plane.
See the video here:
NTSB - Lubbock, TX