Ultra Cautious Pilots
Joined: Nov 2002
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From: Middle East
Mercenary Pilot
I suppose so, cheap airline = cheap labour.
Pay peanuts get monkeys in the LHS
P.S I am not putting down the chap in the LHS with 1500hrs, good on him/her, just a figure of speach the monkey thing!
I suppose so, cheap airline = cheap labour.
Pay peanuts get monkeys in the LHS
P.S I am not putting down the chap in the LHS with 1500hrs, good on him/her, just a figure of speach the monkey thing!
Joined: Jul 2005
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From: エリア88
Just been reading this....
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=328340
The monkeys are the ones paying by the look of things. Where is this industry heading?
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=328340
The monkeys are the ones paying by the look of things. Where is this industry heading?
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: UK
SNS3Guppy you made an important distinction and I appreciate that youthful comments have no place in a professional environment as it devalues the seeming competence of the person in the right hand seat. Never an impression you want to give to your captain!
Regarding
, the way some comments are worded would imply that cheap pilot = inexperienced pilot and as cheap pilot is seen as a bad/dangerous pilot this would mean inexperienced pilot = bad/dangerous pilot. With high hour pilots who are cowboys and low hour pilots who don't make the cut, I think there are 2 sides to every story.
Every case is an individual. Experience vs habits, professionalism vs character, competence vs potential to learn...
Regarding
cheap airline = cheap labour
Every case is an individual. Experience vs habits, professionalism vs character, competence vs potential to learn...
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From: land
In an earlier life I was involved in "aerial" work, still aviation, albeit with a lot more "leeway". to do your own thing.
We had a guy in the company that was an extremely good pilot, a nice guy and quiet a lot of experience for his age. Unfortunately he was unproductive as he was over cautious. He would probably never have bent an aircraft but was not producing the results per hour, by a long shot. Unfortunately they got rid of him.
It is all about risk management. Knowing what you can get away with and what you cant. This of course only comes with air experience. Experience is not the be all to end all, as it wont stop you getting killed if you go to far but it teaches you a lot about standing up to certain types of commercial pressure (prevalent in GA), for instance. Knowing when to stop flying in certain conditions and when to keep going. However experience is also a great yardstick. Some pilots have the experience but don't seem to mold, for want of a better word.
Of course, we all get scared and the fear of being killed helps keep us alive. A person who has no fear, will kill themselves and others, very quickly I am afraid. Some have more fear than others.
We had a guy in the company that was an extremely good pilot, a nice guy and quiet a lot of experience for his age. Unfortunately he was unproductive as he was over cautious. He would probably never have bent an aircraft but was not producing the results per hour, by a long shot. Unfortunately they got rid of him.
It is all about risk management. Knowing what you can get away with and what you cant. This of course only comes with air experience. Experience is not the be all to end all, as it wont stop you getting killed if you go to far but it teaches you a lot about standing up to certain types of commercial pressure (prevalent in GA), for instance. Knowing when to stop flying in certain conditions and when to keep going. However experience is also a great yardstick. Some pilots have the experience but don't seem to mold, for want of a better word.
Of course, we all get scared and the fear of being killed helps keep us alive. A person who has no fear, will kill themselves and others, very quickly I am afraid. Some have more fear than others.
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From: Australia
Some pilots are naturally nervous Nellie's while others don't get fazed in the slightest. Forecast of thunderstorms and low vis at destination will really pray on the mind's of Nervous Nellies while same forecast would not unduly worry another pilot. Some of this might be traced to morbid reading of accident reports caused by heavy weather and of course all the grim flight safety articles in magazines. So the Nervous Nellie is primed for disaster from all quarters. You can reassure the NN's as much as you like but it doesn't help one bit. It's in their genes maybe. If they babble and shake when the radar shows a Cb in their path, best ignore them and certainly don't display your own doubts.
