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Old 17th Dec 2006, 08:02
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Danger CRM; Pilots only to be trained by pilots according to JAA

Is it correct, that JAA from January 2007 introduce a new rule, which states that CRM for pilot is only to be taught by pilots?
I know that this has been practised in the UK for a long time, but is it coming to the rest of us?
During my many years in aviation, I have been facilitated by a lot of very good “experts” – those being former navigators, air traffic controllers and even highly skilled cabin crew. What is going to happen to them – will they have to get a PPL or do they need an ATPL?
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Angel Non Aircrew CRM Instructor

Where did the info come from for this?

I am a UK based non-aircrew CRM instructor and no-one has told me I may have problems re-validating next year.

If you can give some more details I'd like to follow it up.

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Yes it's true. As a part of a package, there will also be requirement that all Milka chocolates, included in crew meals, have to be wrapped up by a rabbi approved kosher marmot.

C'mon Scandinavian, yo're either gulllible or trying to flame us.

My CRM teachers were mechanics, maintenance engineers, flight atendants, first officers, captains and TRI/TREs and they all did a good job of teaching CRM to me and my colleagues. It also speaks volumes about inclusive characterof CRM.
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Here is the link to the proposed changes and responses to comments:
NPA-OPS 42: Crew Resource Management
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Angel Npa 42

Thanks CD

The NPA is all about assessment of CRM as part of the line check which fairly obviously is going to be done by a pilot [CRMI (line)] as opposed to a CRMI (ground) like myself who should still be able to do the classroom stuff.

I still can't see anything yet that says I'm out of a job so I'll try not to worry.

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It's for CRMI -line rather than Ground, as Blue C says. Getting rid of other professions involved with CRM training would be a real retrograde step.
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