So what's that got to do with the A319 exactly?

Now if Airbus have indeed offered aircraft very cheaply and a smooth integration for this new type into easy, then Airbus must be covering for the fact that crew will have to by type rated and thus out of the mainstream loop for a while.

Is it possible for Airbus to pay for 'leased with crew' aircraft to cover?

Share price took a dive when Now! announced thier impending arrival at Luton!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understood that they were going to try to have their 319s supplied with 156 seats, and were applying for a "waiver" of the 1 CC per 50 seats rule, so that they could still operate with just 3 CC per flight.

WWW & kriskross - even if they don't sell those last 2 seats (or 6) the rule is applied to how many SEATS are in an aircraft, not how many PAX are occupying them.

cheers ;)

FF

156 seats
4 cabin staff
no airstairs (would have cost a fortune)
5 aircraft for ez swiss this year
22 aircraft for ezy next year starting march
1 per week for 11 weeks
20 min turnarounds no problem if ground support adequate

So there:cool:

Unwiseowl,

<<Airbus should make the most of this because they won't sell much in the USA for quite a while>>

That makes sense. USA’s only European supporters over Iraq are UK and Spain. Both of whom have a very high stake and content in buses.
Mind you, French Fries didn’t originate in France either!!!

The tail tipping only applies to the A320, not the 321 and only then in rare circumstances when hold baggage is mishandled.

The flight deck of an airbus can be 'turned round' in the length of time it takes to

1) Activate secondary for the stored route you typed in earlier
2) Insert perf, loadsheet
3) Brief for departure

So about 2 minutes then.

All you easy pax out there - there's much more legroom, and free drinks, on BA's 319s. And we don't run out of basics like de-icing fluid in the Winter ;) (removes pin, lobs grenade, ducks into trench)

{1} --To qoute Fly_Right -- 20 min turnarounds no problem if ground support adequate.

....if ground support adequate

AAAAH ! I see the problem, now ! ;)


{2} -- If airstairs are not to be supplied, then that's a tad daft. Any expense would surely have been absorbed by the seemingly desperate Airbus Industrie n'est ce pas ?

...or did they veto that as well......:rolleyes:

Overstress are you sure about this statement
And we don't run out of basics like de-icing fluid in the Winter!!!!

Please cast your mind back to end of Jan, Landed on 27R, informed by ATC no stand available of an hour, taxi to 27R holding area and join the long line af a/c waiting a stand.

When asked why, one of your mob informed us that BA had run out of de-icing fluid and nothing was pushing back. 1 hr 30 mins later eventually got onto B8 (108 soon) very P****d off,

Did no one on the ground look at the forecast and order more!!!

cheers

fc

:}

FormerFlyer,

I'm afraid my reference was to a not very funny 'inside' joke!!!

Lord Fulmar,

4 of the aircraft are 33Vs with a British identity, IB is the only problem one.

No the eJ Buses will NOT come with airstairs. The stairs on the Bus are very steep and open-tread, so not ideal (or safe) for high volume operations. They are also expensive and add weight.

There is no reason for the A319 turnround to be any slower than the 737 (and can be quicker if the ground support is right).

Sure, you may lose a minute positioning forward steps compared with deploying airstairs, but then boarding up/down mobile steps is quicker than steep narrow airstairs, so you get that time back. Also the aisle is wider and the overhead bins larger = quicker boarding.

As for the baggage, the hold is far easier to work in (and the cargo door far more central to the rear hold than on the 320/1) so the whole baggage process will be easier.

So why should a 319 t/rnd be slower than a 737?

One thing that everyone has overlooked is that the Airbus can handle a little fog. Lost count of all those easy Boeings that end up somewhere they shouldn’t.

Talking of fog the link taxiway that will allow a one-way system at Luton won’t operate during low visibility due to the uncontrolled road crossing where gatehouse 2 is at present.

True when compared to most of the current eJ fleet, but the last few 737-700s (and all future deliveries) are Cat IIIB.

.....CAT IIIB they may be, but whoever made this decision did not consult the training department - they can't do IIIB training!

$1.5M well spent!

Purely in passing , a certain favourite airline who also has a large number of 319`s squeezes in 126 pax .The thought of an x-tra 23/4 seats is a bit of a nightmare , but I suppose at £10 a seat u got to squeeze them in !!

CormacL, is that all-economy? Didn't think that that certain favorite airline did that.

After trying to get on the shuttle to houndslow international , only to find out that the reg 767 had been replaced by a 319 I asked what the config was . 126 happy econ pax and 26 unhappy real pax (not to mention 18 staff) who where left behind , but hey the load factor was excellant apparently:confused:

CormacL

But I bet on the airline you are talking about, the first 10 feet of the cabin is taken up with catering stowages, Club Class wardrobes, etc. etc. (take those out and you've gained 2 rows = 12 seats straight away), and very similar at the rear.

Take out the elements you don't need for the eJ service, re-jig the galley/toilet configurations slightly, and a few extra rows will fit no problem. The seat pitch on the eJ A319's will be the same (or marginally better in some areas) than the 737's.

Suppose our orange brothers will be advertising/have advertised for bus rated pilots then?

:yuk: := :} :p :rolleyes: