As a charter operator working in and out of the bush in northern Canada, I've had the misfortune from time to time to have to deal with unruly pax in the back who've been drinking, etc. For those who've flown up here before, they're commonly known as rig pigs. The equipment we use is exclusively the Piper Chieftain, which is a far simpler aircraft than the 757 or 767, so please excuse my ignorance relative to the following question.

Twice we've had pax who've decided for whatever reason they're going to try and join us in the front end during flight. One time I had told the pax if he moved from his seat again I would land and turn him over to the Mounties. My co-pilot told me he was coming forward, and with everyone else belted in, I pushed the stick (no where near load limits) and when he stumbled and fell, he was grabbed by the other guys in the cabin.

Not having any experience whatsoever with a heavy, I have to ask the question. If everyone was strapped in, and the only people moving about in the cabin are the bad guys, could aggressive action such as would be carried out for collision avoidance at least slow them down enough to prepare for their advance to the cockpit?

Again, if what I ask is foolish, it's a question borne of lack of experience in your environment. But I can't help wondering what I would try and do in such a horrible circumstance.

May God Bless them all, and give comfort to their families.

Amok Air

I'm sorry to say this,Especially in the aftermath of what has happened and in response to air rage in the UK at the moment. BUT as a cabin crew member NOTHING short of a cattle prod or stun gun would help my job! :(