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fire3 20th February 2005 14:31

euj
 
The aircraft was a BA146 not a Fokker 100 as reported and there was 13 POB.

thgilf 20th February 2005 14:34

Gear Problem
 
The aircraft with the problem today 20th was a Fokker F100

EI-DFZ

(as usual)

Skeleton 20th February 2005 14:42

Supercab this was today, not yesterdays "incident"

Good to hear the TheGilf... Mrs was watching it.

Sounds like El Capitano did a good job.

Skeleton 20th February 2005 15:48

CONFUSION
 
Seems to be some confusion here and I see the threads have now been merged which has confused it even more.

There was an incident involving an EuJet F100 with a gear problem at Manston airport this afternoon 20 February 2005.

It would appear that some people think I was reporting on "yesterdays" incident - Wrong!

The Real Slim Shady 20th February 2005 16:42

F100 or different type?
 
Thegilf,

Are you sure it was an F100? There is nothing in the F100 approved abnormal procedures that would suggest a touch and go as a method of curing the problem.

The normal procedure calls for a recycle and if not successful the Altn Ldg Gear Procedure which is a gravity drop.

LuckandNeat 20th February 2005 19:39

The situation arose this afternoon at about mid-day and ended with a safe landing due to the skill of the flight crew.

There are two seperate incidents, yesterday was a gear problem with a FlightLine BAe 146 into Manston and todays was the EU-Jet F100 main gear problem.

The F100, the more complex emergency compaired to the 146, aircraft made a flypast and this showed the starboard main was stuck in the half deployed position.

The aircraft then went of to carry out a set of manouvers to try and release the gear but this failed so circled the feild to burn fuel.

Then the crew decided to make a touch and go to try and bump the gear out to full deployment, the first failed so a second attempt was made with a good result.

The aircraft then made one final flypast to confirm the gear was now extended and the crew said they then had three green at which the plane made a safe landing.

Excellent skill of the crew ...

Well done !

5milesbaby 20th February 2005 20:53

I can certify that this thread now is reporting TWO separate incidents. The first involved a Flightline Bae146 that departed Manston on an EUJet flight, but didn't get as far as Dover, instead circled overhead for a while to try and fix the problem, and being unsuccessful returned and landed safely at Manston. This occurred at around 1715z Saturday 19th February.

I have since heard of a F100 positioning having a gear problem today, Sunday 20th Feb, but has now landed safely.

What was the F100 doing in LGW in the first place? Maintenance? Would explain why the Bae146 was operating on the Saturday.

templar 20th February 2005 20:54

The man in the hot seat was the Chief Pilot....

Nice one Dom!

Templar +

Smoke me a kipper 20th February 2005 21:02

Trust me it was a F100 on sunday afternoon, certainly wasn't a 146 and had nothing to do with Gatwick!

Onan the Clumsy 20th February 2005 22:01

Ok, so one aircraft with the gear stuck up and one aircraft with the gear stuck down.


Speaking as a Vector Mathematician, I'd say if the incidents were taken together, there was no problem. :8

LuckandNeat 20th February 2005 22:23

" What was the F100 doing in LGW in the first place? Maintenance? Would explain why the Bae146 was operating on the Saturday. "

It diverted there the night before as it was past the A/D closing hours at MSE and the pax were coached from there ...

Hence why it was just crew on a positioning flight back to MSE

woodpecker 20th February 2005 22:31

The man in the hot seat was the Chief Pilot....

What?? A Chief Pilot flying at a weekend?? It wouldn't be allowed in my airline!!

Hew Jaz 20th February 2005 22:37


It diverted there the night before as it was past the A/D closing hours at MSE and the pax were coached from there ...
Erm, so pax choose MSE for convenience (presumably) rather than one of the other "London" airports, and......... end up going to LGW only to be then bussed back to Manston.......:ugh:

LuckandNeat 20th February 2005 22:44

Hey ...

Diverts happen not just with the smaller airlines ...

If you get diverted for what ever reason then the airline decides wether to put the pax up into a hotel or transfer them alternativly ...

Hew Jaz 20th February 2005 22:58

Sure, I wasn't knocking any airline - big or small - of course diverts happen.

It's the irony of having chosen what was presumably a more convenient airport, only to end up at LGW:)

5milesbaby 21st February 2005 21:08

If the divert to LGW was due to EGMH being shut, then this has been happenning alot recently and must be costing EUJet a fortune. Perhaps their schedule is a little 'too tight' to get all the flights in one day completed??????

Hudson Bay 22nd February 2005 07:13

Just been on TV that an EU jet F100 made an emergency landing. Full moving footage by an amateur camera man. Looked pretty scary. Seven pax on board.

wingandprayer 22nd February 2005 17:16

Have to agree with 'slimshady' on this one.
Not an approved procedure.

VIKING9 22nd February 2005 17:41

7 pax on board ?? - another well booked flight then :(

airborne_artist 22nd February 2005 18:43

Viking - It has been reported that it was a positioning flight, with 7 crew (not 7 pax) on board - though why it takes 7 to move an F100 I'm not sure?

FWIW I flew Eu Manston-Nice-Manston 13 Feb-16 Feb - we were 110 out (on a Fischer 733) and 60 back on an F100.


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