The Guvnor, exposed PPRuNer aka Neil Robertson of Lionair fame guilty of paedophilia
 

After many months of waiting it can finally be announced, thanks to the efforts of many PPRuNers in gathering evidence that Neil Robertson of 150 Walker Avenue, Troon in Ayrshire, more commonly known here on PPRuNe as The Guvnor and on other websites as SAS23 or Ceilidh has been found guilty of predatory paedophilic acts against a seven year old girl. Robertson who pretended to be an airline executive and pilot amongst other things was exposed here on PPRuNe after repeatedly trying to use the website to further his business scams.

Many PPRuNers met Robertson at several PPRuNe bashes, the first of which was held at 'The Old Bank of England' pub in Fleet Street, London. It was at that bash when I first met him and within minutes of being introduced I had my suspicions about his authenticity. At that time none of us had any suspicion about his paedophilia but his claims to have been an airline executive and an airline pilot were plain for any of us in the industry to see as being bogus.

Robertsons stories smacked of 'Walter Mitty' fiction and it only took a small amount of research to see that he was untrustworthy. Through PPRuNe I was able to gather information on Robertson and his more recent 'business' activities which included claims to be an airline owner and the recipient of funding to acquire several ex-Delta Airlines L1011 tri-jets. Enquiries into his status at Prestwick International Airport soon revealed that Robertsons 'office' was nothing more than a briefcase, a mobile phone and a premium rate fax number where faxes were accessed through email. Prestwick Airport were informed about our suspicions but Robertson continued up until his arrest to use their facilities as a drop mail address.

After more research into Robertsons background I was given copies of CV's he was distributing which revealed the total fabrication of his life history, including his claims to have several degrees in aviation business management and more suspiciously, Child Psychology. A follow up on the previous employers revealed that they were either non-existent or else no one knew of Robertson. This was all revealed on PPRuNe yet many people refused to believe that he was nothing but a Walter Mitty and continued to lambast me for alerting the aviation industry to Robertsons fraudulent history as though I was just on a personal vendetta.

Documents were found that revealed a more serious side to the liar. Letters from credit agencies, banks and credit card companies revealed that Robertson had been fraudulently opening bank accounts and spending as much as he could up to and exceeding the overdraft limits. My sources revealed that he was using fake airline tickets to travel to America and the Caribbean in his pretence to be an affluent airline executive trying to secure other peoples aircraft. He was even trying to harvest the email addresses of PPRuNer Wannabes and offering them shares in his fraudulent company in return for the offer of a job as a pilot if they invested enough money to cover the type rating costs. Luckily, he sent one of those emails to me and I was able to immediately alert everyone on PPRuNe about his scam. I am led to believe though, that there were a few gullible people who refused to listen to the warnings being raised on PPRuNe about the con-man and some people did indeed give Robertson some smaller sums on the promise that they would get various jobs and functions in his proposed airline.

I was eventually contacted by Robertsons ex-girlfriend from his time in South Africa and she told me about his paedophile activities. This was indeed a shock and although the charges against Robertson were eventually dropped due to the girlfriend deciding that she would rather protect her young daughter from having to face Robertson in open court the allegations had been made and further enquiries were made. Soon after this more rumours started arriving about other paedophile activity that Robertson was alleged to have committed whilst he was in Africa. At this time, I also received information about Robertsons claims to be a qualified Child Psychologist specialising in child sex abuse. The alarm bells were now really ringing and after another expose on PPRuNe about the rumours many readers did their own research and provided the damning evidence that I finally managed to put together and pass on to the Police in late 2002.

Initially, it was very difficult to get anyone in the police interested but thanks to another PPRuNe moderator who used to be in the police I was put in touch with an officer who was able to refer me to the right people. I passed on my evidence, some of which is shown in the 'Announcement' post at the top of this and every forum on PPRuNe. Within the space of just a few weeks the police had arrested Robertson and yesterday was the penultimate chapter in this ongoing saga. Robertson admitted the charges and now awaits sentencing next month.

There is of course far more to this story but I think we should be grateful that Robertson poses no imminent danger to young children for the next few years at least We must not forget though that there is at least one little girl who has had her innocence destroyed by this pervert and I have reason to belive that there are other children who have been abused by him but charges ave not been brought yet in an attempt to make sure that the legal system gives him an appropriate sentence. Watch this space.

Robertson attempted to shut me up by threatening legal action against me for 'libeling' and 'slandering' him. I called his bluff and had the satisfaction of watching him resort to more desperate maneuvers to stop me cutting him off at every corner. He even published my name, home address and phone number on a number of websites, including some where the readership are slightly more 'rednecked' claiming that I was a war criminal responsible for the murder of thousands of Palestinian women and children. He included an invitation to anyone who believed him to visit me and extract their revenge in person. Typical of the coward that he was, he tried to incite others to carry out the violence he felt towards me. Thankfully, no-one was stupid enough to actually try and carry out his invitation although it did take some time, money and legal threats to get some of those website owners to remove the allegations and my personal and private details. Unfortunately, the owners of some of those websites refused to belive any of the evidence I provided them in order to prove my case that Robertson was nothing but a Walter Mitty con-man. Even when provided with the more serious and damning evidence that he was also a paedophile and a predator they refused to stop him from making his ridiculous claims that he was just an innocent businessman and that it was just my personal vendetta. Some of them even went on to defend him and claimed that he was a personal friend!

In the end everything has turned out for the best. Robertson is incarcerated and is likely to be so for quite some time. Those that refused to believe the evidence that countered their gullible belief that Robertson was just a hard working entrepreneur and airline executive will now have to live with their consciences. The rest of us here on PPRuNe can be proud that we stood by our convictions and the insurmountable evidence that we were dealing with a dangerous pervert. Thank you all for your continued support.

Well done Danny (and others) - a job well done and obviously needed !

Well Done!!!
 

Dear Danny,
I'm rather new to your website as a registered user, to say that I'm totally shocked by what you just brought to light was an understatement..
GREAT JOB in pinning down this sort of harmful criminal and may many other parents out there be thankful of what you & the rest have done in bringing him to justice.
Personally, I think you guys deserved some formal commendations from the relevant authority.

Yours,
Cpt744

Good job! Many children and would be pilots are safe for
the future.Hope that he get's the maximum sentence.

Veritably, "Nice one Captain PPRuNe !" :ok: and of course one of life's nicer pleasures is being able to say "I told you so !"

Aside - I see another Scot has just got 7 years for a similar offence ( click here ) - let's hope the sentence on NDR is not so lenient.

In any event one trusts that their fellow inmates :E won't hold back when dishing out the 'real justice' on these perverts ! :ouch:

Well done Danny and to all who assisted in the downfall of this person. I had met him several times and he lived in a fairytale world.
Good riddens.

Congrats it's all put to bed. Didn't realise it all got so serious. Sure there will be a queue on Saturday waiting to buy you many a drink.

Cheers for all the effort you've put in over the years.

sB

Thankfully never met this bloke,but read enough of his posts to realise that he lived in some sort of parallel universe to our own.Well done for having the balls to out this guy for what he really is,even at the potential cost to your own health and wellbeing.
And lets hope the young girl is able to put this behind her and try lead a normal life in the future.
777

Danny

Great job. As a father of three, I shall sleep a little sounder tonight.

i wish to personally thank you Danny for your hard work. I believe that all paedophiles are dangerous people and i have started to keep a closer watch over my younger sister and cousin since the problem in this country was highlighted.
One less off the streets is a huge accomplishment -
Thanks Again :ok:

Adam

Amazing Danny. You should rightly feel very proud of yourself for all the hard work and effort you put into getting this "man" arrested.

For all of those involved in it, Congratulations, you all deserve to be publicly recognised for what you have done. It just goes to show what good the internet can do when used properly.

If we ever meet Danny, I would be honoured to buy you a pint or two.

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Amazing! I have not been a member long enough to have known of this on going tale.
Terrific work by all concerned.

Well done !!
 

Danny , I usually use the Flypast Forum but found your Forum when NDR was supposed to be the new operator of the Shorts Belfast G-HLFT - which is currently at Prestwick . I spotted the article in the Scottish Daily Record and the Sun newspapers and I have read many of the posts regarding "the Guv" and was shocked and disgusted , without you (and others) this despicable man could still be walking our streets . As a father of two I feel that hanging is too good for these bas5tards , I can only he gets some prison vengeance exacted apon himself , as for those who posted messages supporting him they are either NDR or some of his "friends" and should be investigated too. I can only congratulate you on your tenacity , it certainly brought justice to bear on NDR and if the other pending investigations prove fruitful hopefully he will be incarcerated for a few more years .
If you are ever up here at Edinburgh (Turnhouse) Airport drop me a line , I would be more than pleased to buy you lunch.

Well done

Alastair

Good job, Danny boy. If he had messed with my kid, I would have used his guts for my wife's garters, then castrated him and hung his testicles from Big Ben.

Danny

What can I say that has not been said by others already?

I am also the father of two girls and I dread sometimes to think of what might happen to them if they were younger and met the wrong person.

I do not know how you find the time to do all of the things that you manage to do, but thank you (and all involved from Pprune)from the bottom of my heart for bringing this matter to the attention of the right people.

It seems as if you had a hard job making the initial breakthough - thanks for persevering.

Scottie Dog

Nice one Danny. We all had run-ins with him over the years of PPRuNe and well done for persevering.

Really glad that you bothered to keep up the pressure on the Police and that the power of PPRuNe was realised! Sad though that the police didn't take it seriously to begin with. That's worrying.

Well done mate.

.... GOTCHA !!!! :ok:

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Well done Danny for your perseverance, it takes a lot of effort to follow through on such a task.

Very Well Done Danny
 

Dear Danny,

As if the stresses of being an airline pilot are not enough, this had to land on your plate - that you finished the job so expertly will be forever in your favour and should never be forgotten.

You have done a great service to the community, and fathers of young daughters owe you a beer at the very least.

CONGRATULATIONS.

TG

For every sick, perverted, twisted deviant such as Robertson, I hope there is a dedicated, persistent and genuine man like Danny to hunt them down.

Like many on here, I am the father of a young child. Just saying thank you doesn't really seem enough, but thank you anyway. You're a star.

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Bravo. I'll shout you you a few long, cold ones at the Aviation Club when you come to the FH, laddie. Good job.

Nice to hear that thats another one off the streets


Well done.

Congratulations to Danny and all who helped out this sick and depraved individual.

Makes my skin creep to think that I have talked to him at Bashes and offered him beers and hospitality in my home at a Bash up here.

Lets hope the sentence fits the crime and he is removed from society for a long long time.

I too questioned the Guvnor's authenticity and was threatened with legal action if I dared do it again!!!

All I did was call into question his "business" plan, it's a pity some people couldn’t see him for what he is...

But well done Danny, it's a pity YOU had to do it!!!

Nice Job Sir
 

Having an 18 year old boy who could beat the crap out of anybody and doubly beat the crap out of perverts as well as a 13 year old girl, nice one Sir for stopping the Perv in his tracks.

I joined pprune relatively recently and was only able to see the comments after his arrest although I could not reply. It apperas this guy was like the U.K version of Baghdad Bob..or The Iraqi Minister of dis-Information...." There are no coaltion gangs in Baghdad !! "

Congratulations to all concerned.

Newarksmells

Danny, the distraction of something as grotesque and bizarre as this on top of your busy enough life must have been murder. I hope you can put it behind you now and forget the ******.
Good riddance to him.

Wow!
 

What an astonishing story. I like others had quarrels with him but I would never have imagined he was such a monster.

While I echo the comments about the police not acting earlier, the real legacy of Danny's efforts may well be the uninterrupted normal childhood a couple of potential victims may now enjoy.

That future for those kids is priceless. Well done Captain Pprune!

Where other men dare not, Danny does. Congratulations to our own bounty hunter for putting it all in place and handing it to the reluctant cops on a silver platter. Yeah, I wonder about Robertson's prison life also. I think he'll need many jars of Vaseline. Thank God he's gone.

Emil

tragic.. shame on our profession but at least the people who really care stood up.. one for aviation .. thank you

Danny

We've never met, but if/when we do ALL the beers are on me! Many thanks for persevering when I'm sure many others would have given up. You have undoubtedly saved many children from molestation by this pervert.

Diplomate

Well done Danny.

It should not go unmentioned that you took on this man at considerable risk to yourself, not only in terms of threatened physical harm but also the risk to your reputation and the financial risks associated with legal action.

You are, Sir, a man of integrity, courage and honour.

We thank you and salute you.

As a ppruner, I thought The Guvnor had some value. As a human being he has none.

Danny
 

Don't know how the hell you find the time!
TOP JOB. WELL DONE.

Should I ever find myself at a PPRUNE bash you have a beer in the keg.

To think at one point I took the guv (not Danny) seriously, makes me want to puke and have a bath for days with sandpaper for a sponge.

Well done Danny, BTW, still take you seriously.



Bored

once sent a friend's CV for the africargo thing..
 

boredcounter,

be a friend and pass the sandpaper when you are done,:yuk:

Congrats, Danny - the satisfaction of a long, played-out "game" of cat and mouse has finally paid not only you dividends, but has more than justified your "baby" - PPRuNe - as a USEFUL internet tool.

Without PPRuNe, I wonder if The Guvnor (his most used, and best recognised handle here) would have attracted sufficient attention?
He was, undoubtedly, an extrovert craving public attention, but probably never figured on it causing his downfall and outing as an alleged child molester, apart from his other fantasies in which he revelled here.

Perhaps this might encourage a few more longer term PPRuNers to "click here"...underneath your PPRuNe name...to demonstrate your true depth of support for Danny and his team. :D

Perv Roundup
 

Happily there's been an ocean between that perv and my children. Well done Danny:ok:

Today in Toronto the police arrested a suspected child murderer -- who has besmirched the name of the software developer profession, as if we hadn't enough ignominy already:uhoh:

And Andrew Luster, a fugitive from a 124 year sentence for multiple videotaped drug rapes was apprehended in Mexico and delivered to a California jail.

Too bad that's not the whole lot:ugh:

Well done Danny, this kind of person should always stay behind bars. They are threat to our civilised society. Keep it up buddy, a job well done.

Top piece of work, Danny.

I find it a bit frightening to realise how normal these perverts seem - I had a few beers with him and many others at one of the lunches at the Old Bank of England a while back. The impression I gained of him was just a w*nk*r who knew b*gg*r all about the airline business.

I'd like to think he'll be spending a long time waiting "until her majesty's pleasure be known" in a less than salubrious institution. It would be nice if his cell mates were mighty upset by his antics.

This is one very sick puppy. :mad:

A very evil, manipulative man from my own experience ...the likes of which I hope I never have to meet again...or at least next time will be alerted sooner!

Like many who came into close contact with Robertson I felt something was no quite right from the beginning but he was very plausable, 'gung ho' and a habitual liar...then the gaps started showing in his plans, his knowledge and his abilities...

Then further investigation, questionning, his activities and evidence uncovered the inconsistancies, lies in his business objectives although never at that time did I ever consider how the story would turn...until I was made aware later by a friend in the medical profession of the rather alarming pattern of stories/behaviour as to his darker side...

As one who was closer to this situation than most, with the exception of Danny, I can today say that I feel both pleased, relieved and relaxed that this last 2 years and in particular last 4 months awaiting Robertsons' trial are now over and I know his fate...

To the end I never ceased to be amazed by his antics and again had underestimated his actions that were revealed in Court as to chain of events in his final act...

I say again he was a VERY EVIL, MANIPULATIVE MAN...

Note: there are many more characters like him out there I am told and I hope people learn as I have from this whole saga, I think I would say that I can now spot them a bit better...hindsight is a wonderful thing...

Danny,

Huge, massive respect.