Originally Posted by TWT
(Post 11519873)
Oz Government has chartered some Qantas aircraft and they'll be crewed by volunteers.
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
(Post 11519878)
Sending Qantas aircraft and crew into a war zone! Why aren’t the RAAF doing the rescue?
And I read Germany is also planning to charter Lufthansa to do the evacuation of its citizens instead of its own military aircraft . |
"More than 300 people arrived in Budapest on Monday on Hungarian Air Force planes as part of a joint rescue operation by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade and the Ministry of Defense.
A few minutes after 1 p.m. on October 9, a Hungarian Defense Forces Airbus A319 landed at Budapest’s Liszt Ferenc International Airport with 110 people on board, evacuated from Tel Aviv, honvedelem.hu reports. This was the third rescue flight from Israel by the Hungarian Defense Forces." |
Tel Aviv and back
Might be that an aircraft in civilian colours is not to be shot at.
Cyprus Airways must have seen my previous post and cancelled all flights in to and out of Tel Aviv, yesterday. |
Originally Posted by hunterboy
(Post 11519315)
It does seem to be the BA Way…maximise revenue at the expense of everything else. Just because the British Government hasn’t said not to go doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.
On a separate note, if BALPA was a bit stronger, it could be making its own security recommendations. Sadly, it seems too wrapped up in its own in-fighting. If the risk isn't tolerable they don't fly (unlike some other operators) The decision may have been down to if crews stopover in TLV, as you know a lot of UK carriers go there and back - BA don't because they in your words "maximise revenue at the expense of everything else" (maybe the don't) |
Originally Posted by Fathom
Sending Qantas aircraft and crew into a war zone! Why aren’t the RAAF doing the rescue?
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Sending Qantas aircraft and crew into a war zone! |
Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
(Post 11519878)
Sending Qantas aircraft and crew into a war zone! Why aren’t the RAAF doing the rescue?
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The Netherlands have sent one of their A330s down there.
looks like an evacuation is in full swing. |
Originally Posted by skkm
(Post 11519138)
It is not uncommon to experience GPS interference in Israeli airspace. Loss of GPS position data results in loss of ADS-B out.
On the subject of the fuel load I suspect the answer is as simple as fuel is cheaper in the UK than at TLV so they were tankering to save money. |
Originally Posted by Gordomac
(Post 11520031)
Might be that an aircraft in civilian colours is not to be shot at.
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It has been many years but I regularly flew BA london to Tel Aviv.I was based there. Always on a BA B767. Shooting an approach down to 200' and then returning to London??? Really? I have my doubts about this. Is it even possibly on BA 767's? If it is and BA management elected to take return fuel to home base during a war..??? Well? What to think about that?
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Canadian RCAF is shuttling folks from Israel to Athens Greece where they can continue on commercial transport of their choice.
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Originally Posted by happyjack
(Post 11520323)
It has been many years but I regularly flew BA london to Tel Aviv.I was based there. Always on a BA B767. Shooting an approach down to 200' and then returning to London??? Really? I have my doubts about this. Is it even possibly on BA 767's? If it is and BA management elected to take return fuel to home base during a war..??? Well? What to think about that?
I think round trip fuel is certainly unusual on that sector but not that mysterious. Yes it could have been down to cost and availability at TLV in the current circumstances but it's also quite possible that if things hadn't gone to plan (which they obviously didn't) BA decided they wanted the option of getting aircraft, crew and passengers directly back to London, rather than perhaps getting caught up in duty hours problems or who knows what somewhere such as Cyprus or Athens. |
On FR24 it was an A350.
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Originally Posted by wiggy
(Post 11520404)
...I believe the aircraft involved the other day was a 78..
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Originally Posted by wiggy
(Post 11520404)
767 long gone, TLV was a BA 777 :ok: /Airbus mix for a long time, I believe the aircraft involved the other day was a 78
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I’d be tankering as much fuel as possible if it were me too….land and get out again ASAP.
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Woolston/Flying wild/Lake1092 - many thanks.
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Fond memories of LGW -TLV - LGW with heavy crew in the 1980s. Departed on Christmas mornings surrounded by armed police and armoured vehicles. 40 years past now. Not a popular bid for the crews.
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