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Terrain Noted 30th Apr 2023 17:48

Are Ryanair pilots leaving in big amounts?
 
They cancelled 220 flights this weekend apparently due to French ATC strike. Or they don’t have pilots enough?

DaveReidUK 30th Apr 2023 18:42

Maybe it was because of the French ATC strike.

speed13ird 30th Apr 2023 19:38

a quick google reveals 5860 pilots flying around 3000 daily rotations, so I don't see a pilot shortage

Terrain Noted 30th Apr 2023 19:52

Nobody leaving? Everybody still happily brainwashed?

ATC Watcher 30th Apr 2023 20:02

The French ATC strike is only on Monday ,and is not supported by the main controllers Union (SNCTA) and in any case with the overflying minimum service in place , it would not affect Ryanair ops much
.Delays yes, but not cancellations by the hundreds. Must be other resaons

Johnny F@rt Pants 30th Apr 2023 20:45

Are Ryanair pilots leaving in big amounts?

YES

wiggy 30th Apr 2023 20:54

There's been no, zero, nul, ATC action in France over the weekend.

As ATC Watcher says the French ATC one day action doesn't start until AM on Monday and DGAC have called for minimum service with a 33% reduction in flights into nominated major airports....

Diff Tail Shim 30th Apr 2023 23:20

Are not loads joining?

ICEHOUSES 1st May 2023 08:41

Remind me what the latest package and benefits is for experienced aircrew at FR, compared to other U.K. airlines, thought this airline was a copy of southwest airlines according to MOL without the associated high salaries and benefits there.

2Planks 1st May 2023 09:24

Well, having had a Google around, I can’t find hundreds of ryanair cancellations ‘over the weekend’ but I can find lots about 220 cancellations today thanks to French ATC strikes on May 1st.

Given the OPs second post about brainwashing I sense an agenda.

Brian Pern 1st May 2023 09:25

Where are they all going to?

kenparry 1st May 2023 11:29

TUI and Jet2 among others

deltahotel 1st May 2023 14:25

DHL air uk

Herod 1st May 2023 18:22

Good luck with going to AirUK, which is what I presume you meant.

FUMR 1st May 2023 18:42

Herod, actually DHL Air UK is correct. I shan't include the gen on it. Google it for further info.

speed13ird 1st May 2023 20:36

erm, 220 cancellations from an airline with 3000 daily sectors, some reality checks needed here

Herod 1st May 2023 21:02


Originally Posted by FUMR (Post 11428627)
Herod, actually DHL Air UK is correct. I shan't include the gen on it. Google it for further info.

Thanks FUMR. My mistake, I assumed it was talking about two airlines. The AirUK I was thinking of disappeared some 20 years ago.

FUMR 1st May 2023 21:19


Originally Posted by Herod (Post 11428661)
Thanks FUMR. My mistake, I assumed it was talking about two airlines. The AirUK I was thinking of disappeared some 20 years ago.

Cheers. A good airline it was too (and also as Air Anglia)!

CessNah 2nd May 2023 07:13

Resignations still flying in record numbers and crew controllers desperately calling the current crew members to work on their days off. And it's only May :}

A320LGW 2nd May 2023 07:42

I'm in a very big base and not been called to work an OFF day nor do I know any FO in any other base that has been. Lots resigning is the hottest rumour right now though. They seem to be getting around shortages by sending people to work out of base.

2Planks 2nd May 2023 09:22

Can’t see any news regarding cancellations today at Ryanair. I don’t doubt some people move on to other airlines but it seems yesterday’s cancellations we’re all about the French ATC strike (publicised a few days ago by MOL himself) and not about a shortage of pilots.
BA also had cancellations.

zerograv 2nd May 2023 10:51

If there were any flight cancellations before yesterday it was due to the weather. It will never be because of a staff shortage.

Was it 2017 in which there was a miscalculation and by October there were quite a number of crew that could not fly anymore til the end of the year.
The flights that were cancelled afterwards were cancelled because of difficult VMC weather conditions.

India Four Two 2nd May 2023 15:34


difficult vmc weather conditions.
;)​​​​​​​

Aleks93 2nd May 2023 15:50

Not as I heard of. My friend flies there and there is no increased amount of people leaving. Most probably it was because of ATC strikes that affected everyone

flygpilot 2nd May 2023 17:01

I know a few pilots that are eager to join.
They do not have many other options.

ATC Watcher 2nd May 2023 17:07


Originally Posted by zerograv (Post 11428877)
The flights that were cancelled afterwards were cancelled because of difficult VMC weather conditions.

I love British humor :ok:

WideScreen 2nd May 2023 19:10


Originally Posted by zerograv (Post 11428877)
If there were any flight cancellations before yesterday it was due to the weather. It will never be because of a staff shortage.

Was it 2017 in which there was a miscalculation and by October there were quite a number of crew that could not fly anymore til the end of the year.
The flights that were cancelled afterwards were cancelled because of difficult VMC weather conditions.

Aha, the Putin approach?

UAV689 9th May 2023 22:35

Absolutely bucket loads are leaving, predominantly from the UK.

Senior FO’s off to the ME, BA, Jet2, VS.

Every new command is being put into UK at present.

Lots of new FO’s dropped into UK, and forced to pay visa (5k) upfront and takes about 8 weeks for Ryr to repay the cadet…

Roadshows currently taking place in Brazil, Argentina, Turkey and QR, LGW roadshow this week.

Not sure why any Brit would join FR when the terms at jet2 are so much better. The Brazilians/Argies will do it for a visa.


vilas 10th May 2023 14:31

Pilots leaving can't be true. Ryan air and Boeing can't be congratulating themselves for an order of 300 new Max10.

UAV689 10th May 2023 20:05


Originally Posted by vilas (Post 11432844)
Pilots leaving can't be true. Ryan air and Boeing can't be congratulating themselves for an order of 300 new Max10.

New aircraft will not arrive until 2027, and the last of the current max’s arrive in Dec 2024, over 2 years to ramp up.


ZuluZuluAlpha 10th May 2023 20:43


Originally Posted by UAV689 (Post 11432589)

Not sure why any Brit would join FR when the terms at jet2 are so much better.

Because Jet2 generally don’t recruit low hour pilots, Ryanair do. Pretty good starting point getting an opportunity with a UK base with Ryanair I’d say…

Steve1968 11th May 2023 14:29

Having seen a few rosters for the Jet 2 Stansted base in the last few weeks not a chance I would want to leave RYR,

CessNah 11th May 2023 14:54

Given that this is pprune I’m very surprised at the disproportionately high numbers of company oriented replies on this thread, but given FR’s recent aggressive recruitment drive leads me to believe that management bots spamming this thread is very much a high possibility :E

Alrosa 11th May 2023 15:11


Originally Posted by CessNah (Post 11433279)
Given that this is pprune I’m very surprised at the disproportionately high numbers of company oriented replies on this thread, but given FR’s recent aggressive recruitment drive leads me to believe that management bots spamming this thread is very much a high possibility :E

Not sure I’d agree with this. This website is awash with company oriented replies and it’s not limited to one company. I wouldn’t conclude that any pro company posts are management types. Just as likely to be folk who are content where they are and happy to share an alternative point of view.

I doubt any Ryanair managers would bother with pprune to be honest. Actions (or financial results) speak louder than words.

maxpeck 11th May 2023 16:57


Originally Posted by Steve1968 (Post 11433266)
Having seen a few rosters for the Jet 2 Stansted base in the last few weeks not a chance I would want to leave RYR,

What were they like? Interested to know, were they mainly long 2 sector days , night flights etc?

hec7or 12th May 2023 06:04


Originally Posted by CessNah (Post 11433279)
management bots spamming this thread is very much a high possibility :E

Foil hat alert

Steve1968 12th May 2023 18:19


Originally Posted by maxpeck (Post 11433330)
What were they like? Interested to know, were they mainly long 2 sector days , night flights etc?

Long days and random days off .6 days on and 2 off, 4 days on 1 off etc. Every one to their own but myself I have little interest whether I work hard or not in the winter its the good weather where I can spend time with the family, hobbies etc time that can never be regained.

maxpeck 12th May 2023 18:41


Originally Posted by Steve1968 (Post 11433945)
Long days and random days off .6 days on and 2 off, 4 days on 1 off etc. Every one to their own but myself I have little interest whether I work hard or not in the winter its the good weather where I can spend time with the family, hobbies etc time that can never be regained.

Ok, thanks for the information.

JimT87 13th May 2023 08:31

For an average month what does an FO expect to take home

Big Tudor 13th May 2023 08:49


Originally Posted by Steve1968 (Post 11433945)
Long days and random days off .6 days on and 2 off, 4 days on 1 off etc. Every one to their own but myself I have little interest whether I work hard or not in the winter its the good weather where I can spend time with the family, hobbies etc time that can never be regained.

Don’t do 6on2off, nor do they do single days off, except in very rare circumstances.


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