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blind pew 30th Jan 2023 21:31

Right decision
 
I once gave a station manager the benefit of the doubt and boll@caked her when I caught her stealing; I didn’t file a report but she did, obviously had contacts and I wasn’t believed. After a month I went to the chief pilot and told him if he didn’t believe me then I would return to the RHS which I had left after 20 years. It wasn’t the end of the story as she had contacts in traffic which affected my flight concessions.
I stayed in the LHS but covered my arse with paperwork or always had a witness and drew others into my decisions.
Its a bit like lending a friend money.

ClearedToNowhere 30th Jan 2023 21:46

The aircraft arrived on stand 36, not a remote stand. The aircraft certainly was not “locked down”, the police walked the crew member in question from the aircraft and passengers disembarked normally a minute or two later. They did not “look on” as the crew member was arrested, as no arrest took place onboard.
Please let the investigation run its course before allowing the press to lead the speculation, is all I will say.

Confusious 30th Jan 2023 21:49


Originally Posted by ClearedToNowhere (Post 11377051)
The aircraft arrived on stand 36, not a remote stand. The aircraft certainly was not “locked down”, the police walked the crew member in question from the aircraft and passengers disembarked normally a minute or two later. They did not “look on” as the crew member was arrested, as no arrest took place onboard.
Please let the investigation run its course before allowing the press to lead the speculation, is all I will say.

Thank you.

FloridaCandle 30th Jan 2023 23:26

Agreed

reefrat 31st Jan 2023 00:33

A long time ago on Qantas out of LHR i noticed one of the stewards was @issed out of his tree. I offered him my seat into which he promptly collapsed. I covered him with a blanket and made my way aft to the drinks trolley spending the rest of the flight to Bahrein watching the cabin "Manager" searching franticly for his lost crew, On approach I woke him and he made his way apparently sober to the service area

beardy 31st Jan 2023 01:31


Originally Posted by reefrat (Post 11377111)
A long time ago on Qantas out of LHR i noticed one of the stewards was @issed out of his tree. I offered him my seat into which he promptly collapsed. I covered him with a blanket and made my way aft to the drinks trolley spending the rest of the flight to Bahrein watching the cabin "Manager" searching franticly for his lost crew, On approach I woke him and he made his way apparently sober to the service area

At what point did you consider that he may have been unable to assist you and the rest of the passengers in an emergency situation?

reefrat 31st Jan 2023 02:18

He was as full as a tick, he couldn't assist himself let alone others so there was no point in dobbing him in.

beardy 31st Jan 2023 09:39


Originally Posted by reefrat (Post 11377143)
He was as full as a tick, he couldn't assist himself let alone others so there was no point in dobbing him in.

Fine, off he goes and does it again and nobody but you is any wiser. There is something about good men standing by and doing nothing.
The main reason cabin crew are on board is for your safety, a role that is compromised by alcohol.

Confusious 31st Jan 2023 10:24


Originally Posted by reefrat (Post 11377143)
He was as full as a tick, he couldn't assist himself let alone others so there was no point in dobbing him in.

Interested to know whether you have any professional association with aviation?

airspeed75 31st Jan 2023 11:20


Originally Posted by reefrat (Post 11377111)
A long time ago on Qantas out of LHR i noticed one of the stewards was @issed out of his tree. I offered him my seat into which he promptly collapsed. I covered him with a blanket and made my way aft to the drinks trolley spending the rest of the flight to Bahrein watching the cabin "Manager" searching franticly for his lost crew, On approach I woke him and he made his way apparently sober to the service area

What a load of absolute nonsense.

It cracks me up that some folk seem to think they're doing an alcoholic some sort of favour by enabling their behavior. In actual fact you're merely normalising it and making it more likely they go on to do something far more stupid like hopping in the car on the way home drunk and killing someone.

SWBKCB 31st Jan 2023 12:08

There seems to be an assumption on here that every drunk person is an alcoholic?

nomilk 31st Jan 2023 12:18


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11377410)
There seems to be an assumption on here that every drunk person is an alcoholic?

Not every drunk person at a party or in a pub is an alcoholic. But if you show up drunk at work, there is probably more than a 90% chance that the person has a serious alcohol problem.

rugmuncher 31st Jan 2023 12:18


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11377410)
There seems to be an assumption on here that every drunk person is an alcoholic?

And the flip-side to that would be Is every alcoholic always drunk?


Magplug 31st Jan 2023 14:07

Anybody that needs to drink at work is an alcoholic. In my experience any airline employee that raises their hand and says 'I need help' is treated with the utmost compassion and supported by the company. I understand they have moral and legal obligation (in most civilised countries) to do so.

Sadly the majority continue to hide their lifestyle and have become very practiced at remaining under the radar. You may occasionally find someone regularly described as 'The Life & Soul of the party' on nightstops. In reality they may be seeking to normalise their own behavior by dragging in the rest of the crew..... On occasions that has lead to junior colleagues over-indulging, getting caught and losing their job whilst the real culprit goes unnoticed. (Scandinavia is definitely not a place for airline folk to be led astray). Having alcoholics around is not simply a bad idea from a safety point of view. Bad stuff seems to follow them around.

No alcoholic will voluntarily seek help until they hit rock-bottom. That might be losing their spouse, their job or simply one of their kids asking them why daddy always smells like a pub. In my career I have exercised my fair share of compassion. On two occasion I have come down to pickup in the hotel to find an FO who looked like death and smelt like a brewery. On both occasions I did them a favour and sent them back to bed with my diagnosis of food-poisoning..... and a warning from me that this has been a one-time favour and won't be repeated. We were all young and stupid once.

ETOPS 2nd Feb 2023 07:30

I hear that BA have toughened up their guidance on employees and posting company info on social media.

Wonder if this is linked?

VHOED191006 2nd Feb 2023 07:39


Originally Posted by ETOPS (Post 11378416)
I hear that BA have toughened up their guidance on employees and posting company info on social media.

Wonder if this is linked?

If it is, I believe that it's a reaction that is over the top.

Confusious 2nd Feb 2023 10:01


Originally Posted by ETOPS (Post 11378416)
I hear that BA have toughened up their guidance on employees and posting company info on social media.

Wonder if this is linked?

Possibly, but good luck with that as those thst wish to will post under a nom de plume.

nomilk 2nd Feb 2023 11:42


Originally Posted by Confusious (Post 11378505)
Possibly, but good luck with that as those thst wish to will post under a nom de plume.

In uniform? How is that going to help?

Confusious 2nd Feb 2023 11:46


Originally Posted by nomilk (Post 11378560)
In uniform? How is that going to help?

Is uniform recognition a new technology for tracking social media posts that is exclusive to BA?

USERNAME_ 2nd Feb 2023 11:50

The social media policy was introduced the day of/the morning of the incident, so I don’t believe it is linked.
It is more centred around crew posting their rosters to social media, doing stupid dances in the aisle during turnaround and posting videos with the layover hotels tagged as their location, rather than putting a full stop to any posts, like the media is suggesting.


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