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Icelanta 14th Sep 2020 19:38

Sorry boys, this is a good landing, nothing to see here and those complainers: go fuc... yourselves. Dor all it’s worth they were empty and with over 3000m., landing distance is absolutely non critical. This crew obviously know their equipment.

Cedrus 14th Sep 2020 22:06

Ice Child, please qualify what a 'good landing' is? That's a rhetorical question (look it up so you know what rhetorical means).

Without all the data and a trained interpreter, no one on this forum knows if this was a 'good landing'. I make an assumption that you don't have access to the data or any expertise on the aircraft.

Any training Captain would not support holding the nose wheel off as evidenced in the video, regardless of runway available or non normal situation. It's not a big deal, but neither is it correct technique or endorsed.

I don't claim that the video captures a bad or a good landing.

I do maintain that the majority of replies to this thread are unqualified gibberish.

visibility3miles 15th Sep 2020 04:29


I see the firefighting heavies do this very often landing.
Fire fighting heavies land very light and need a quick turn around unless the fire is out.

Capt Ecureuil 16th Sep 2020 09:32

Anyone 777 qualified will know that was against the FCTM, also they know that anything other than a normal derotation rate can loosen ones fillings given the lack of "give" on the nose leg.

I'm still trying to figure out what was happening with that spoiler deployment considering they were on the ground with reverse selected.

Cough 16th Sep 2020 13:48

Surely the elevator gains authority as the aircraft de-rotates? So may whilst the start may have been induced, it's possible the end wasn't and I've watched many 777's lower their nose at faster rates than this one... I'm in the 'nothing to see here' camp as I've a funny feeling it was dealt with a after landing discussion...

Pugilistic Animus 16th Sep 2020 15:13


Originally Posted by dicks-airbus (Post 10881409)
Perhaps they had a nose gear steering problem indication :cool:? We've had aircraft coming in with 90° NG and so in that case it is the best to keep it up as long as possible.... :)

Isn't the 90 deg. displacement an Airbus problem only? Because the engineers decided to make the NG do a little Pirouette during retraction and extension

Vessbot 16th Sep 2020 15:15


Originally Posted by George Glass (Post 10883510)
Happy with Autobrake 1 ? I’ll kick it off on touchdown , stow the speed brake , and idle reverse. .

I'm not sure if I'm reading you right, but I'm reading that you're essentially not gonna use the brakes. If so, why set the autobrake just to kick it off "on touchdown" (i.e., immediately?)

FlightDetent 16th Sep 2020 15:59


Originally Posted by Pugilistic Animus (Post 10886691)
Isn't the 90 deg. displacement an Airbus problem only? Because the engineers decided to make the NG do a little Pirouette during retraction and extension

It's a feature, not a bug.

Craggenmore 17th Sep 2020 17:02

Shame the 10,000's of spectators who traveled to Filton on Nov 26th didn't get to see anything so 'dramatic'..!

speedrestriction 18th Sep 2020 08:38

Aerodynamic braking on delta wings makes sense, huge increase in drag at higher alpha. On aircraft with long, slender wings it falls into the category of showboating. It is not unsafe in this particular situation, simply unnecessary and not a very effective method of slowing this type of aircraft.


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