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Originally Posted by Denti
(Post 10843373)
Boeing and Ethiopian.. Doesn't seem to fit very well these last few years. Good thing that apparently nobody was hurt this time, just another write off.
How could a cargo fire on the ground have anything remotely to do with gross mishandling of the aircraft by supposedly trained pilots who hadn't been given access to, or taken notice of mandatory safety bulletins, let alone months of international news coverage? That's just irresponsible, imflammatory **** stirring. End of. |
If it's anything like fireworks then one faulty unit on fire could cause a chain reaction, as far as Li ion batteries go.
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Originally Posted by Longtimer
(Post 10843667)
Folks are speculating that it was batteries, why would an inbound flight to Shanghai from Brussels be bringing in Lithium batteries?
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Originally Posted by Intruder
(Post 10843832)
4 hours after landing, inbound cargo was likely already gone, and at least some outbound cargo loaded.
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What goods would be stored in the area just forward of the tail fin?
I am reminded of the DC10 fire at I believe ORD and the Valuejet fire in the Everglades |
That's a very good and very pertinent question ...
Taking a wild guess, and assuming that the aircraft was being loaded, given that the 777 Freighter has the Main Cargo Door on the rear part of the fuselage, which is very useful to avoid "wheelies" on the ramp, they loaded the main deck forward of the main cargo door, then they loaded the "interesting cargo" in the rear ... and did not had time to load the last cargo, which is the one that goes in front of the Cargo Door itself. |
Originally Posted by Stick Flying
(Post 10843514)
But DGR stated quite categorically it wasn't freight dangerous goods.
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That could be repairable.
Quite a few million $, but could be done. Depends on the market value of the airframe due to age and hours/cycles. |
zerograv
Best come back and review your comment when the investigation is out. |
Originally Posted by lomapaseo
(Post 10844347)
What goods would be stored in the area just forward of the tail fin?
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Always loaded the radio active stuff at the back.
We had a hi-loader catch fire once due to hydraulic leak. Fortunately it was moved back from the aircraft before it got too bad. |
SMT Member
Informative response What do others think about the possibility of storing spare aircraft servicing parts there in case of an AOG at an off-base. That location might serve as light loads only and off limits to normal cargo |
lomapaseo
Flyaway spares kit IF carried (normally not) is placed in the belly hold cargo, never main deck. |
Ethiopian Airlines Statement on Incident ET-ARH – Shanghai Pudong Airport
Although proper investigation has been started by the country of occurrence and the country of registration and operation, preliminary information revealed that in the final preparation for taxi out, fire was detected in the main deck. The crew reported to ATC and the handling company and asked for help as per the procedure. Meanwhile, the fire spread in the cabin until the handling company and the airport emergency unit arrived at the scene of the incident. The fire damaged the upper structure of the aircraft before it was brought under control by the airport emergency services. |
They should be happy that they did not make it into the air. Would have been very likely fatal so a thorough investigation should be done.
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What is wrong with ethiopian rear part of the aeroplanes?
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Latest I just heard from a private source in Shanghai is that it was a "mis-declared" battery shipment. Any official declaration yet?
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I wonder what the difference is between declared vs mis-declared battery shipment once it gets aboard an airplane?
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Where do used up and recalled Lithium batteries generally go for recycling or landfill, etcetera? I had two lifetime-warranty Rigid Tool batteries go to the their warranty shop with the tool and charger...came back with new batteries. Also a fine-working complicated Swiss electric pruner battery recalled for unknown reason. Dealer sent a new battery after I returned a form with acknowledgement that original would be disposed properly.
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preliminary information revealed that in the final preparation for taxi out, fire was detected in the main deck. The crew reported to ATC and the handling company and asked for help as per the procedure. Meanwhile, the fire spread in the cabin until the handling company and the airport emergency unit arrived at the scene of the incident. The fire damaged the upper structure of the aircraft before it was brought under control by the airport emergency services.Ethiopian Airlines B777 freighter aircraft with registration number ET-ARH caught fire while loading cargo at Pudong Shanghai airport today, July 22, 2020. The aircraft was on a regular scheduled cargo service from Shanghai to Sao Paulo-Santiago via Addis Ababa. |
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