Not sure which of those countries you're from, but that's not true of the US.

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I knew of an electrician working on the contractor circuit, until, a respected Multi X engineer became suspicious and asked a few questions. He was indeed an electrician....but purely for the home and domestic appliances

Read a CV from the sub-continent once. On the surface, well qualified...however, his mistake was the discrepancy between his D.o.B and obtaining his "qualifications ".....which suggested he had started his engineering career at a very early age

I certainly knew a UK Eng, who was A&C Licenced, ...his CV however included a couple of extra type ratings shall we say. His non aviation qualifications were "impressive and detailed "....so I suggested contacting the tertiary education providers concerned. It turned out he attended the courses he claimed to be qualified in, but, only for a couple of lessons which. for him, duly made him "qualified "...his best effort however was to state "Director Designate " for a now defunct cargo operator. When contacted, they were intrigued to learn of his pending appointment.

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I think that’s very likely.

I wonder what the possible consequences of a Swiss cheese event one day in the crew allocation department, means that two drivers with limited experience are paired?

What some people are possibly overlooking here is that the training to a reasonable level is there. The bigger problem is that many who "attend" the training are not so good and are quickly identified as such, it is the high level of corruption allowing these "not very good" people to "obtain" licences at a later date even after failing or being dropped from the training.
It requires more than National regulators in some of these countries to weed it out because they may well be some of the problem. ICAO and/or other worldwide organisations need to legislate and regulate in a much more firmer manner.
Let's face it, how embarrassing would it be for a country's airlines to be completely grounded due to fake licensing/regulation.

NOTE QUITE FAKE
 

I hope like me everyone agrees "fake" is probably the wrong word. Essentially the "fakers" are those that cheated on more or more ATPL Theory exams or got someone else to attend them. I.e. the licenses are not forgeries but were granted based on false representation of some sort. Culturally speaking this is the norm in just about every jurisdiction outside the Western (and probably Middle Eastern) world, especially for ex-military pilots who are so respected for their years of military flying service that at age 50, no one would dare make them go through a civil examination to prove they can fly a big jet. Yes, even the CAA would be in on it.

I don’t see that.

No amount of training can change the refusal to take the orbit. It’s cultural / organisational

Perhaps already mentioned in one of the previuos posts in this thread, another example of fake license, the co pilot of this disater:
https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19890607-2

It’s not just licences it’s experience and training too I was surprised to see both pilots in the PIA crash had not been in a simulator since 2010 and the California helicopter crash the pilot was not IFR current. Not to mention Boeing signing off their own aircraft safety, Does anyone actually regulate this industry at all.

In addition to being extremely patronising, its comments like that that make stories like this less likely to be uncovered.

Seconded...... Brushing things under the carpet for 'fear of causing offense' is just getting to be too much!

The GMC website has a search function to check the status of doctors either by name or their GMC reference number. That together with their passport as photo ID is the starting point verify their bona fides.
There was a bogus consultant psychiatrist from NZ who was only recently discovered as totally unqualified (no medical degree) as part of her UK criminal trial concerning a patient’s WILL forgery.

The oversight of medicine has continued to be strengthened such that nowadays it is almost impossible to get in on forged documents. This famous case of a Kiwi psychiatrist occurred due to a loophole relating to Australasian qualifications being recognised in the UK. Closed in 2003.....and that is the point - the system has become more robust. Just a couple of years ago responsible officers started cross checking doctors - a bit like line captains checking every check ride with previous employers. The CAA likewise has tightened its systems.

As others have said issues occur with lax or absent checks in countries where honor is more important than truth, where some applicants are more important than others, and where everything has a price.

And here lies half the problem, this response says it all, still in denial.

Psychiatrist was of Pakistani origin with fake Pakistani work references (which is how she obtained UK employment).

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/progr...rist-dupes-nhs

There's a list going around with names of pilots with dodgy licenses. Some are dead, some retired. Allegedly this list was provided to the minister by the head of the Pakistani CAA's IT department. The CAA knows with amazing accuracy who doesn't have a real license. Isn't that amazing?

One commentator says they would know, they're the ones that took the bribes and adjusted exam details and results on the IT systems.

The plot thickens.

Allegedly 27 Pakistani pilots suspended in

Vietnam because of dubious licenses. A total

of 261 pilots license holders under suspicion.

The plot thickens indeed .

Agreed I thought it odd that the minister would state with such certainly this revaltion after this specic crash.

I also felt outrage that for those of us who spent years studying and training and a great deal of money to get qualified to be sharing the skies with those who took a fraudulent route.

That's an interesting posit. Of course it applies to other fields and professions as well.
The obvious opposing argument is that having a system of background information and theory with the associated hoops to jump through builds a feeling of exclusiveness and accomplishment. This status and the perceived time investment modifies the individuals behaviour towards conservatism because it's an achievement you don't easily throw away. The apparent low difference in accident rates needs proper statistical analysis but I think there's some dilution due to the size of the relative markets, globalised aviation standards and the actual extent of "fake" (how fake - a little or a lot?) credentials muddies the waters somewhat.