Originally Posted by Doors to Automatic
(Post 10711020)
I have heard from a source at BA that some of their 380s are flying around with 300 empty seats on some UK-USA sectors. This has probably just increased that to 400!
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Originally Posted by ReturningVector
(Post 10710947)
It is for the same reason Italy went in lockdown when the virus was already wreaking havoc: To spread the number of sick people over a longer time.
That way you will have a less intense ‘peak’ that puts a burden on the medical infrastructure. It is not so stupid as you might think, it is the way to go according to experts. You will not stop the virus, most people will get sick, but spreading it over a longer time helps in relieving the pressure on your hospitals and clinics somewhat. Trump being Trump he use sthe opportunity to attack those he feels offended by at the same time. |
Originally Posted by Eutychus
(Post 10710941)
How does this work for pilots of any provenance, please? Does the ban not apply if they stay airside?
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I just checked on Air France and Lufthansa website, you can still book a flight during the ´ban’ period.
I have my reccurent booked in April in the USA... |
RTE reports the ban also does not apply to the Irish Republic, which is in the EU and not UK.
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Ireland is not in Schengen either so is exempt
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Presidential edict - 'close the stable door, but leave the window open for fresh air'.
'Nothing to fear but fear alone'; some administrations may manipulate fear, but to what purpose. Better to provide a positive view; not a list of 'cases' and 'deaths' (fatality rate), state the number of recoveries. This value is 'cases' - 'deaths', a much higher value, but of little political or media value. |
Originally Posted by Eutychus
(Post 10710941)
How does this work for pilots of any provenance, please? Does the ban not apply if they stay airside?
Section 1. Suspension and Limitation on Entry. The entry into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of all aliens who were physically present within the Schengen Area during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States is hereby suspended and limited subject to section 2 of this proclamation. Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry. (a) Section 1 of this proclamation shall not apply to: (vii) any alien traveling as a nonimmigrant pursuant to a C-1, D, or C-1/D nonimmigrant visa as a crewmember or any alien otherwise traveling to the United States as air or sea crew; |
Norwegian shares down 30% today...
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Re C-1/D Visa: do you just have to hold such a visa to be allowed in or do you actually have to operate a flight into the US to make use of the C-1/D. I got a B-1/B-2 alongside my C-1/D and just to cancel my flights as passenger through the US.
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
(Post 10711208)
Re C-1/D Visa: do you just have to hold such a visa to be allowed in or do you actually have to operate a flight into the US to make use of the C-1/D. I got a B-1/B-2 alongside my C-1/D and just to cancel my flights as passenger through the US.
The exemption apparently is only for C1/D, don’t think you are going to get in unnoticed😉 |
It's a mostly open border and as has been proven in the past 2 years (people fleeing the US) it is easy to sneak across.
but here is an article: Trump's Europe travel ban poses questions for Canada-U.S. borderJames McCartenThe Canadian PressPublished Thursday, March 12, 2020 4:39AM EDT https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...rder-1.4849675 |
Luckily, Trumpy doesn’t have golf courses in the Schengen area. Only the UK and Ireland. Boy, that was lucky.
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Originally Posted by Longtimer
(Post 10711386)
It's a mostly open border and as has been proven in the past 2 years (people fleeing the US) it is easy to sneak across.
but here is an article: |
Originally Posted by 20driver
(Post 10711431)
Flying to Canada and then onto the States will not be a practial option for most people. It is not really that easy to sneak into the US over the Canadian border for the average person. If you show up at a border crossing with an passport from any of the countries involved you will almost certainly be questioned and likely refused entry.
https://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...S-14095175.php |
Originally Posted by marchino61
(Post 10710819)
I would imagine that the UK will now have to stamp the passports of visitors from Schengen countries. Otherwise they will have no way to prove to the US authorities that they left Schengen at least 14 days prior.
And it does not apply to cargo. |
Originally Posted by threep
(Post 10711000)
To restrict international travel is not necessarily the wrong thing to do. Whether this is right measure at the right time is a question for the experts. To blame the virus on the EU, and then omit the UK from the travel restrictions when we are probably no more than 3 or 4 days behind France, Germany, Spain in terms of this outbreak is illogical and sounds very Trump. There must always be a scapegoat and today its the EU. I fear for the US in this pandemic, without a consistent, top-down, expert & evidence-led set of public health decisions, the US will have the greatest death rate in the developed world.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...n-virus-deaths |
Here is an update my daughter has just been sent in PRG. I was going to try to get her to swap out the LHR-JFK leg to LHR-PIT, but that won't be possible as they have to fly into certain airports. (I'm retyping this from a screenshot she sent me from her iPhone, bolding is mine.)
Following the announcement from President Trump concerning the 30-day suspension of travel from Europe to the U.S., the Department of Homeland Security released a clarifying statement regarding the exceptions to the ban indicating, "This does not apply to legal permanent residents, (generally) immediate family members of U.S. citizens, and other individuals who are identified in the proclamation." While the ban does exempt American citizens and permanent residents, the acting Secretary added, "In the next 48 hours, in the interest of public health, I intend to issue a supplemental Notice of Arrivals Restriction requiring U.S. passengers that have been in the Schengen Area to travel through select airports where the U.S. Government has implemented enhanced screening procedures." |
Cyprus is not on the list and not in the Schengen area but in the EU.
Does this mean you can travel from Cyprus via connecting airport not on this list to the USA? |
Originally Posted by ReturningVector
(Post 10710947)
It is for the same reason Italy went in lockdown when the virus was already wreaking havoc: To spread the number of sick people over a longer time.
That way you will have a less intense ‘peak’ that puts a burden on the medical infrastructure. It is not so stupid as you might think, it is the way to go according to experts. You will not stop the virus, most people will get sick, but spreading it over a longer time helps in relieving the pressure on your hospitals and clinics somewhat. The idea is that reducing the peak load on the health services they will not break down. |
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