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alph2z 4th Jan 2020 15:03

Air Canada Dash 8-300 lost a wheel at Montreal (video)
 
Sparks are seen on the video of the right inboard axle of the wheel and then the wheel rolls off at high speed as the airplane lifted off.

EDIT: It's the left inboard side.

Air Canada (Jazz Aviation) Dash 8-300 lost a wheel on takeoff at Montreal-Trudeau with 49 passengers and a crew of 3 on the way to northern airport Saguenay on Friday afternoon. Plane burnt fuel to reduce weight and returned to Montreal.

French passenger with France accent says "It fell off, it fell off".

See good video of the axle sparking and wheel falling off in News in French


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b757241767.jpg
Photo

capngrog 4th Jan 2020 15:36

It looks like a bearing failure resulting in a grease fire. Faulted bearings can become white hot before they fail catastrophically.

This was apparently not the first time this has occurred with a Dash 8, and here's a link to the incident report:

https://assets.publishing.service.go...JEDR_11-11.pdf

Cheers,
Grog

breguet 4th Jan 2020 20:08

It is a Jazz a/c
 
Air Canada does not have dash-8, it is a Jazz Dash-8. Jazz operates flights for AC.

Seat4A 5th Jan 2020 00:22

1min+ video, departure and return. Also turn on the volume


capngrog 5th Jan 2020 01:44

If a pilot ever needs to "grease one on", that was the time to do it ... and he/she did! Bravo!

Cheers,
Grog

alph2z 5th Jan 2020 05:14


Originally Posted by Seat4A (Post 10654094)
1min+ video, departure and return. Also turn on the volume

https://twitter.com/TomPodolec/statu...236288/video/1


French from France passengers said Pilot said to passengers that it was "no big deal"

😊

Bournemouthair 5th Jan 2020 05:31

AMAZING Air Canada Jazz Dash 8 #AC8684 to Saguenay lost a wheel as it departed Montre
 
Air Canada Jazz Dash 8 #AC8684 to Saguenay lost a wheel


AviatorDave 5th Jan 2020 12:18

nice landing!

Seat4A 5th Jan 2020 14:42


Originally Posted by Bournemouthair (Post 10654200)
Air Canada Jazz Dash 8 #AC8684 to Saguenay lost a wheel
.....

Yes, same video I posted yesterday (linked in post 4).

Also for reference, a great source of such things is

@TomPodolec
Sr. Multimedia Journalist, CTV News Toronto
Aviation Photographer......


He posted this before the video became available


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....07c787fc4b.png
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....96335c9649.png
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a175795126.png



YVRKid 5th Jan 2020 20:21


Originally Posted by breguet (Post 10653967)
Air Canada does not have dash-8, it is a Jazz Dash-8. Jazz operates flights for AC.

I bet you're fun at parties.

OldnGrounded 5th Jan 2020 21:35

Good job, pilots! And an excellent video, videographer!

Jet Jockey A4 6th Jan 2020 12:22

It seems the passenger was videoing the problem while they were taxiing to the runway prior to the takeoff.

If so instead of continuing the video, why did he not say something to a crew member or at least have his friend shout out to the F/A that we think there is a problem with the wheel?

WingNut60 6th Jan 2020 13:02

Meanwhile, from ABC News:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6d4b435f56.png

OldnGrounded 6th Jan 2020 18:01


Originally Posted by Jet Jockey A4 (Post 10655109)
It seems the passenger was videoing the problem while they were taxiing to the runway prior to the takeoff.

If so instead of continuing the video, why did he not say something to a crew member or at least have his friend shout out to the F/A that we think there is a problem with the wheel?

Two possibilities come to mind. First, it's pretty common, when shooting photos or videos to become immersed in that process, wanting to "get it all" and not thinking of anything else. Second, and this may sound unlikely, although I don't think it is: The passenger may not have actually understood that there was a serious problem until the wheel actually fell off.


OldnGrounded 6th Jan 2020 18:03


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 10655133)


Gosh, that latest version has some significant upgrades. And I think the low wing looks much sleeker.

MurphyWasRight 6th Jan 2020 18:21


Originally Posted by OldnGrounded (Post 10655345)
Two possibilities come to mind. First, it's pretty common, when shooting photos or videos to become immersed in that process, wanting to "get it all" and not thinking of anything else. Second, and this may sound unlikely, although I don't think it is: The passenger may not have actually understood that there was a serious problem until the wheel actually fell off.

Another factor could be the probable (expected) response of the crew: Relax nothing to see, (whatever is brought to their attention) is normal.
Not intending to fault crew,it is is just a conditioned response from the prior 999 times a passenger brought something to their attention that was in fact not an issue, even if not 'normal' as in happens every time.

I suspect your first notion is likely closest though.

EEngr 7th Jan 2020 00:35

You picked a fine time to leave me, loose wheel.

Longtimer 7th Jan 2020 01:26


Originally Posted by Jet Jockey A4 (Post 10655109)
It seems the passenger was videoing the problem while they were taxiing to the runway prior to the takeoff.

If so instead of continuing the video, why did he not say something to a crew member or at least have his friend shout out to the F/A that we think there is a problem with the wheel?

1. FA would have been strapped into their jumpseats.
2. Very likely the sparks would not have been present until the aircraft had achieved much more than taxi speed.Passenger cries out, FAs unlikely to react as by the time the sparks were flying the aircraft was already close to rotation.
.......

Maninthebar 7th Jan 2020 08:48

And today's winner is.........


Originally Posted by EEngr (Post 10655549)
You picked a fine time to leave me, loose wheel.


Herod 7th Jan 2020 14:07

Agreed; a winner. But he's showing his age, and a penchant for C&W. Nice one.


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