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oceancrosser 2nd Sep 2019 02:58

Ever seen a TAF like this? Freeport Bahamas...
 
...courtesy of Dorian

MYGF 012300Z 0200/0224 33050G100KT 1600 +TSRA BKN012CB BKN090 OVC200
FM021300 VRB80G200KT 800 +TSRA BKN009CB OVC050

hans brinker 2nd Sep 2019 05:38


Originally Posted by oceancrosser (Post 10559643)
...courtesy of Dorian

MYGF 012300Z 0200/0224 33050G100KT 1600 +TSRA BKN012CB BKN090 OVC200
FM021300 VRB80G200KT 800 +TSRA BKN009CB OVC050

Request Runway 33, and set MCT, I want to get there before 13:00Z....

PerPurumTonantes 2nd Sep 2019 05:50

You won't need an aircraft to get airborne...

hans brinker 2nd Sep 2019 06:15


Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere (Post 10559706)
Not to turn this into a pissing contest, but not uncommon in Australia during cyclone season.

Definitely don't want a pissing contest with those winds.

krismiler 2nd Sep 2019 06:26

An alternate would be required ?

pukua 2nd Sep 2019 06:44


Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere (Post 10559706)
Not to turn this into a pissing contest, but not uncommon in Australia during cyclone season.

On behalf of many Australians I apologise for another Austranaught!

Check Airman 2nd Sep 2019 06:47


Originally Posted by oceancrosser (Post 10559643)
...courtesy of Dorian

MYGF 012300Z 0200/0224 33050G100KT 1600 +TSRA BKN012CB BKN090 OVC200
FM021300 VRB80G200KT 800 +TSRA BKN009CB OVC050

VRB080G200

What do you put in the PERF APPR page?

beardy 2nd Sep 2019 06:57

Doors wind speed limits?

SMT Member 2nd Sep 2019 07:07


Originally Posted by Check Airman (Post 10559726)
VRB080G200

What do you put in the PERF APPR page?

Something that doesn't start with MYFG, I'd imagine ....

Lookleft 2nd Sep 2019 07:20

Anything you like as it wont make any difference!

KRviator 2nd Sep 2019 08:43


Originally Posted by SMT Member (Post 10559739)
Something that doesn't start with MYFG, I'd imagine ....

You bugger! I snorted my beer out my nose reading that! :D:ok:

Reckon one of these would work?
https://www.euroga.org/system/1/user...65291892_n.jpg

73qanda 2nd Sep 2019 09:20


Not to turn this into a pissing contest, but not uncommon in Australia during cyclone season.

The strongest wind gust recorded on the Australian mainland is 267 km/h. The gust was recorded during cyclone Vance at 11:50 am (WST) 22 March 1999 at Learmonth Meteorological Office, 35 km south of Exmouth.

Wind gusts of 259 km/h at Mardie and 246 km/h at Onslow were measured during cyclone Trixie in February 1975.

By ‘ not uncommon’ do you mean ‘pretty much never and certainly not on the populated mainland’?

PW1830 2nd Sep 2019 09:37

In 50 years never seen 200kts forecast anywhere - seen the odd typhoon around Asia.

krismiler 2nd Sep 2019 09:52

Cyclone Tracy, which devastated Darwin in Christmas 1974, recorded a 217 km/hr maximum wind speed before the anemometer failed. Given the scale of the destruction it was likely much higher.

fox niner 2nd Sep 2019 10:09

I guess the port has been freed by now?

compressor stall 2nd Sep 2019 10:17


Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere (Post 10559706)
Not to turn this into a pissing contest, but not uncommon in Australia during cyclone season.

hmmm, I’ve never seen 200kt in a TAF in Oz in the last 20 + years. Yasi was estimated at “only” 300kmh.

We’ve got enough biggest, most poisonous, longest records. We don’t need to make up more.

Surlybonds 2nd Sep 2019 11:24


Originally Posted by compressor stall (Post 10559868)

hmmm, I’ve never seen 200kt in a TAF in Oz in the last 20 + years. Yasi was estimated at “only” 300kmh.

We’ve got enough biggest, most poisonous, longest records. We don’t need to make up more.

Yeah, even the sheep are poisonous...

Doug E Style 2nd Sep 2019 11:38


Originally Posted by oceancrosser (Post 10559643)
...courtesy of Dorian

MYGF 012300Z 0200/0224 33050G100KT 1600 +TSRA BKN012CB BKN090 OVC200
FM021300 VRB80G200KT 800 +TSRA BKN009CB OVC050

I'd stick an extra ton on in case there's some holding.

The AvgasDinosaur 2nd Sep 2019 12:20


Originally Posted by oceancrosser (Post 10559643)
...courtesy of Dorian

MYGF 012300Z 0200/0224 33050G100KT 1600 +TSRA BKN012CB BKN090 OVC200
FM021300 VRB80G200KT 800 +TSRA BKN009CB OVC050

I’m well aware it’s a PILOTS forum. Is there a kind soul in the house could provide a decode for the illiterate, please ?
Humble request
David

jimjim1 2nd Sep 2019 12:27


Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur (Post 10559989)
I’m well aware it’s a PILOTS forum. Is there a kind soul in the house could provide a decode for the illiterate, please ?


From - Flight Utilities ? Metar / Taf Reader and Decoder Online

MYGF 012300Z 0200/0224 33050G100KT 1600 +TSRA BKN012CB BKN090 OVC200
FM021300 VRB80G200KT 800 +TSRA BKN009CB OVC050


Location: MYGF
FREEPORT - INTERNATIONAL - BAHAMAS
Latitude: 26°33'19"N - Longitude: 078°41'54"W.
Magnetic declination: 7.87°W
Sunrise: 10:54 UTC
Sunset: 23:35 UTC
Report emitted the day: 01, time 23:00 UTC
Monday 2 September 2019 00:00 local time.
The forecast valid time are from day of the month: 02 time: 00:00 UTC (Monday 2 September 2019 01:00 local time) to day of the month: 02 time: 24:00 UTC (Tuesday 3 September 2019 01:00 local time).
Wind: True direction = 330 degrees, speed: 50 knots (93 km/h) (26 m/s), with Gusts of maximum speed 100 knots (185 km/h) (51 m/s).
Runway 06, length 11021 feet, altitude 6 feet: Cross Wind 50 KT Left - Centerline Wind 6 KT front.
Runway 24, length 11021 feet, altitude 7 feet: Cross Wind 50 KT Right - Centerline Wind 7 KT rear.
Minimum horizontal visibility: 1600 m.
Weather: Strong Thunderstorms Rain .
Clouds: Broken sky (5-7 oktas), at 1200 feet above aerodrome level (366 meters), cumulonimbus.
Clouds: Broken sky (5-7 oktas), at 9000 feet above aerodrome level (2743 meters).
Clouds: Overcast sky (8 oktas), at 20000 feet above aerodrome level (6096 meters).

From 13:00 UTC (Monday 2 September 2019 14:00 local time), Wind: Variable in direction, speed: 80 knots (148 km/h) (41 m/s), with Gusts of maximum speed 200 knots (370 km/h) (103 m/s).
800: Unknown token.
Weather: Strong Thunderstorms Rain .
Clouds: Broken sky (5-7 oktas), at 900 feet above aerodrome level (274 meters), cumulonimbus.
Clouds: Overcast sky (8 oktas), at 5000 feet above aerodrome level (1524 meters).

The AvgasDinosaur 2nd Sep 2019 12:47

Many many thanks for your time and trouble.
Be lucky
David

YRP 2nd Sep 2019 12:50


Originally Posted by hans brinker (Post 10559687)
Request Runway 33, and set MCT, I want to get there before 13:00Z....

Yeah for sure. After 1300 you might need special VFR with that lower ceiling. 😎

Teevee 2nd Sep 2019 12:59

Just a point, those Aussie speeds are in Km/hr. They don't come close to kts/hour.

fokker1000 2nd Sep 2019 17:56

Try KEF for size, not as strong winds, but 50kts in snow isn't that usual, and we keep operating.... just ;-o

Check Airman 2nd Sep 2019 18:42


Originally Posted by fokker1000 (Post 10560242)
Try KEF for size, not as strong winds, but 50kts in snow isn't that usual, and we keep operating.... just ;-o

That's impressive. My airline stops moving when the surface wind exceeds 50kt.

BluSdUp 2nd Sep 2019 19:29

Extra fuel, anyone?
 
Enough for two approaches before diverting!?

Nick 1 2nd Sep 2019 20:16

Translation : if TAF is more then two lines long , stay at home ...

Water pilot 2nd Sep 2019 21:25

Which one of those symbols indicates the depth?

Freeport airport is currently under five feet of water. Thoughts for all those affected, may this damn thing move out to sea and stay far offshore (out of the shipping lanes, please.)

Pilot DAR 3rd Sep 2019 00:45


Freeport airport is currently under five feet of water.
When I flew into Freeport many years back, there was a photo in the FBO, which showed a number of jets sitting up to their fuselages in water. It was explained to me that the photo was taken from the roof of the FBO building, of a storm surge. I hope people were able to fly their aircraft to safety this time....

krismiler 3rd Sep 2019 01:49

Hopefully there are some RNAV/GNSS approaches, that sort of flooding tends to put ground based aids out of action for a few days.

3wheels 3rd Sep 2019 14:07

Fun day out...even a 30 degree crosswind component would give you 100 knots of crosswind!

skadi 3rd Sep 2019 14:36


Originally Posted by Teevee (Post 10560032)
Just a point, those Aussie speeds are in Km/hr. They don't come close to kts/hour.

kts/hour???

knots are nm/h

skadi

Stuka Child 4th Sep 2019 14:16

In defense of some posters, Western Australia is actually where the strongest wind gust ever recorded hit - at 408 km/h.

langleybaston 4th Sep 2019 18:05


Originally Posted by skadi (Post 10560893)
kts/hour???

knots are nm/h

skadi

knots per hour is an acceleration.

langleybaston 4th Sep 2019 18:08


Originally Posted by skadi (Post 10560893)
kts/hour???

knots are nm/h

skadi

knots per hour is an acceleration.

As an aside, in my entire career as a Metman, I don't think that I ever forecast a steady wind of over 60 kt, or a gust of more than 90.
That's all over UK, Cyprus, and Germany.

nicolai 4th Sep 2019 20:49

This is what an airport looks like during that:

and here's what it does to structures afterwards:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weath...ahamas-emerge/

the_stranger 5th Sep 2019 06:25


Originally Posted by nicolai (Post 10561962)
This is what an airport looks like during that:
https://twitter.com/kionnemcghee/status/1168540276949954560

and here's what it does to structures afterwards:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weath...ahamas-emerge/

It's just a little standing water, perfectly flyable as long as you account for it in the take off and landing performance.

nicolai 5th Sep 2019 07:07


Originally Posted by the_stranger (Post 10562163)
It's just a little standing water, perfectly flyable as long as you account for it in the take off and landing performance.

... and you're flying a Catalina!

YRP 5th Sep 2019 12:43


Originally Posted by the_stranger (Post 10562163)
It's just a little standing water, perfectly flyable as long as you account for it in the take off and landing performance.

... just be sure to use the tables for wet-runway-with-whitecaps.

Strumble Head 5th Sep 2019 18:44

Runways awash ...
 
Brings back memories of doing a 'FOD plod' at GIB with a fishing boat on (and I do mean on) the eastern end of the runway following a touch of weather. Couldn't see how that was going to fit in a rubbish bag, but off we went from the western end :rolleyes:


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