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gearlever 15th Aug 2019 19:08


Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 10546140)
The guys lost both engines. He managed to put it down in a field, and everyone walked away. THe pilots need a big slap on the back and a large bottle of something strong.

The rest is just window dressing.


Yep, simple but spot on:ok:

Busbert 15th Aug 2019 19:09

The crashworthiness of the A320 family is pretty impressive. 737s tend to break into 3-4 sections in similar circumstances. Another grandfather rule you don’t hear much about.

Hotel Tango 15th Aug 2019 19:16


The crashworthiness of the A320 family is pretty impressive. 737s tend to break into 3-4 sections in similar circumstances.
Oh come on now! It depends on many different factors. Can you back your statement with unbiased evidence?

BluSdUp 15th Aug 2019 19:39

Job Well done to my Russian neighbors.
With regards to Airbus sturdiness I have to say I am impressed.
Crossing that drainage ditch could have split some other aircraft on the market !

Congratulations again
Regards
Cpt B

Ps
Cant help thinking the massive corn first cushioned the touchdown (" Corn effect + Ground effect").
Then made for a rapid deceleration , as the ground run is less then 500 meters.
Ds

GlobalExpressDriver 15th Aug 2019 20:03

Fabulous result... but I expect the investigation may find some disturbing facts.

I’ll wait ...

Seat4A 15th Aug 2019 20:06

Video clip and still photos from Jacdec. You can see additional ones on their Twitter thread.

Overhead video in this tweet


https://twitter.com/JacdecNew

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1c92404a38.png

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fdf8e9359b.png



Originally Posted by Seat4A (Post 10546189)
Video clip and still photos from Jacdec. You can see additional ones on their Twitter thread.

Overhead video in this tweet
https://twitter.com/HavArenaMedya/st...29934085992448

copied for those who can't see the link

BluSdUp 15th Aug 2019 20:06

GED
Now that is not fair!
Do tell!!

czarnajama 15th Aug 2019 20:08


Originally Posted by Busbert (Post 10546150)
The crashworthiness of the A320 family is pretty impressive. 737s tend to break into 3-4 sections in similar circumstances. Another grandfather rule you don’t hear much about.

The evidence for this is presented in the 2010 documentary "People & Power - On a wing and a prayer",
This documentary shows that there were problems with the fail-safe chords of the fuselage in the centre section (around the wings) of the 737NG series (mainly 737-800). These structural members were outsourced and according to fired Boeing employees were faulty, which Boeing is alleged to have ignored. Some 737's have broken up into sections in forced landings similar to this latest incident in Russia.

JanetFlight 15th Aug 2019 20:13

Does anyone knows the type/species of birds involved in this accident? Tks
Great work by the entire crew.

Rated De 15th Aug 2019 20:17

The next time an idiot CEO, press release from same, IR drivel or some ill informed administrative type( that airlines are full of), waxes lyrically about the "automation" and how pilots are glorified bus drivers point to this and Sully.

jettero 15th Aug 2019 20:38


Originally Posted by JanetFlight (Post 10546192)
Does anyone knows the type/species of birds involved in this accident? Tks
Great work by the entire crew.

It was the seagulls.

nevillestyke 15th Aug 2019 20:40

Being Pedantic.
 
From the channels cut in the corn, looks like there may have been a bit of a tailstrike.:hmm:

jettero 15th Aug 2019 20:41

Another video

Admiral346 15th Aug 2019 21:27


Originally Posted by nevillestyke (Post 10546215)
From the channels cut in the corn, looks like there may have been a bit of a tailstrike.:hmm:

And exactly how would you have set her down? Nose first? Or maybe belly-flop her into the corn?

What a #%&§$ comment...


I salute the heroes of Moscow.

Nic

FrequentSLF 15th Aug 2019 21:31

Take easy...he was joking!

lomapaseo 15th Aug 2019 21:32

What factual evidence do we have that both engines lost power and were not recovered by crew actions?

jettero 15th Aug 2019 21:45


Hotel Mode 15th Aug 2019 21:47


Originally Posted by Nightstop (Post 10545796)
The Checklist is titled:

EMER Landing ALL ENG FAILURE

It’s on the flip side of laminated cards which are located at the side of each pilot (the front side being the Normal checklists).

DITCHING on the left, FORCED LANDING on the right.

The DITCHING checklist states DITCHING Pb ON and LANDING GEAR UP, the FORCED LANDING checklist states SPLRS ARM and LANDING GEAR DOWN.

Think you might find that's company specific. That's not what's on the reverse of ours.

CargoOne 15th Aug 2019 22:31


Originally Posted by lomapaseo (Post 10546267)
What factual evidence do we have that both engines lost power and were not recovered by crew actions?

Tsss... Medals and awards first, DFDR readout second!

atakacs 15th Aug 2019 23:05

How long do you keep hydraulics assuming both engine off? Is the RAT auto deploying?


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