Disruptive Jet2 passenger getting a big bill
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The *Idiot* that caused a Jet2 aircraft to be diverted to STN escorted by 2 RAF Typhoons (which caused a sonic boom over land whilst en route to intercept) is getting an £85K bill according to the press. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bill-Jet2.html No news from Plod regarding actually charging her for endangering the aircraft - probably a slap on the wrist there if the UK police follow form. Perhaps Jet2's action will make some think before being rather silly on an aircraft. |
She was arrested and bailed. The delay/lack of a charge is probably DPP rather than Plod.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-49017838 |
drichard you beat me to it by about 1 minute.
Mods feel free to delete the duplicate thread I started |
There's no guarantee that Jet2 will succeed in extracting payment if the lady disputes the invoice.
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Originally Posted by drichard
(Post 10520984)
No news from Plod regarding actually charging her for endangering the aircraft - probably a slap on the wrist there if the UK police follow form. If you charge someone with endangering an aircraft you need to prove to a court beyond reasonable doubt that that person’s actions endangered the aircraft. Being drunk and shouty while trying to hit cabin crew may be unpleasant and frightening for some passengers, but it does not even come close to endangering the aircraft. |
Sucks to be her but a precedent had to be set.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bill-Jet2.html Nice pic of the two RAF Typhoons... Daily Mail living up to their reputation. Maybe the MoD should bill her too..Scrambling Typhoons isn't cheap. |
She refuses to pay. They maybe persuade a judge to enforce a CCJ on her (costing them £4250 before they pay a penny to a lawyer). She goes bankrupt. CCJ written off.
All for show. |
Originally Posted by RomeoAlphaMike
(Post 10521067)
She refuses to pay. They maybe persuade a judge to enforce a CCJ on her (costing them £4250 before they pay a penny to a lawyer). She goes bankrupt. CCJ written off.
All for show. However, if this person does declare bankruptcy she will find life pretty difficult getting any credit, now or in the future as an undischarged bankrupt I suspect. Actually - who gives a toss? |
Originally Posted by flying phil 2007
(Post 10521056)
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Originally Posted by Old Dogs
(Post 10521100)
One of those ain't a Typhoon.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10521108)
Yes, I think that was the point the previous poster was making ...
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I honestly don't know what a Typhoon looks like, but I find it hard to believe that BOTH of these aircraft are Typhoons...
Good on Jet2 anyway. Nice clear message. Hope the lifetime ban gets spread around the industry, before she pulls the same stunt at RYR/EZY too. |
Lifetime of misery from debts collectors or bankruptcy, better than a 30 quid slap on the wrist and some community service. Given simple parking fines can explode in value when it’s unpaid the culprit here is pretty screwed and most likely bankruptcy is the only option. A great deterrent IMO. |
Some fairly rich men have been arrested for disruptive behaviour aboard aircraft. Maybe the airlines should target their response on a couple of high profile cases against people who can be chased for the dough. |
One of those ain't a Typhoon. |
Good to see the Russians helping out. :)
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Originally Posted by Longtimer
(Post 10521228)
Good to see the Russians helping out. :)
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I'm lost here.
I see a photo of a pair of Typhoons. Is there another pic i'm not seeing? |
Originally Posted by dixi188
(Post 10521405)
I'm lost here.
I see a photo of a pair of Typhoons. Is there another pic i'm not seeing? They changed the picture from one Typhoon and one Sukhoi 35 to two Typhoons. |
Originally Posted by dixi188
(Post 10521405)
I'm lost here.
I see a photo of a pair of Typhoons. Is there another pic i'm not seeing? |
Originally Posted by Gove N.T.
(Post 10521088)
Actually - who gives a toss?
She will have fun and games if unable to get a credit card, so booking a holiday in the future which while not an absolute block will remind her every time she tries to do everyday things. |
Does making someone bankrupt, landing someone with a huge bill plus a lifetime ban befit the crime? |
Originally Posted by McBruce
(Post 10521130)
Lifetime of misery from debts collectors or bankruptcy, better than a 30 quid slap on the wrist and some community service. Given simple parking fines can explode in value when it’s unpaid the culprit here is pretty screwed and most likely bankruptcy is the only option. A great deterrent IMO. I think it is all moot. Jet2 would be stupid to waste the court fees and legal fees pursuing it for no return and I imagine they have no intention of doing so. The aim, successful, was to get it in the newspapers to act as a deterrent to others. Hopefully it works |
Originally Posted by RomeoAlphaMike
(Post 10521482)
I think it is all moot. Jet2 would be stupid to waste the court fees and legal fees pursuing it for no return and I imagine they have no intention of doing so. The aim, successful, was to get it in the newspapers to act as a deterrent to others. Hopefully it works
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Originally Posted by Planemike
(Post 10521531)
Seems reasonable........ Dispatching TWO Typhoons seems to be rather "over the top". What were they going to achieve, given the circumstances??
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Originally Posted by Planemike
(Post 10521531)
Seems reasonable........ Dispatching TWO Typhoons seems to be rather "over the top".
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Originally Posted by SMT Member
(Post 10521538)
One to do the shooting down, the other to confirm the kill?
if one aircraft had a technical issue, your response would be zero - hence the minimum is 2 |
Prosecute whoever sold her the alcohol
Like in the good old days. Sort out the ground staff who allowed her to board.
Retrain the CC who handled it so badly. What a waste of time launching a couple of interceptors. Make airports a friendlier place rather than an ordeal. pathetic.. |
Originally Posted by Dannyboy39
(Post 10521471)
Does making someone bankrupt, landing someone with a huge bill plus a lifetime ban befit the crime? |
Originally Posted by Dannyboy39
(Post 10521471)
Does making someone bankrupt, landing someone with a huge bill plus a lifetime ban befit the crime? However the airline's choice to pursue her for some (probably not ALL, because that would include all knock-on, crew out of hours etc) cost seems highly reasonable. But ALL of the other passengers were inconvenienced, and they ALL presumably were late arriving, with consequential costs etc, which they have little if any hope of passing on to her. So no, asking her merely to pay the airline's cost most certainly does not fit the crime - it should be more. The only person "landing someone [herself] with a huge bill" was herself! Do you not see that? And the above only applies if she actually pays the airline's reasonable bill. Presumably she won't, so that is a further reason for the punishment being unlikely to fit the crime. Her most likely way to avoid paying the reasonable bill will probably be to declare herself bankrupt, which of course is entirely her choice. Should she choose to do so, then the consequences of taking such action would be her responsibility, and hers alone. It is about choices, responsibility, and consequences. It was in her hands; the other passengers didn't have any choice in the consequences for them. Once the wider public see the reasonable consequences (being asked to pay for some of the costs), as well as the possible consequences of declaring bankruptcy to avoid paying up, it might then help them to recognise their responsibility to behave in a much more focused way. And a lifetime ban? Certainly - why would anyone want to be put through that again, with all the cost which they'll have ho hope of recovering from her? So, it certainly does not befit the crime, not completely, but it seems a good start. |
SMT Member
Fighters always prefer to operate as a minimum of a pair when conducting actual missions. QRA is no different to any other operation in that respect. When you see single jets flying around they are just on a training mission. BV |
Originally Posted by sooty655
(Post 10521757)
She was apparently trying to open an emergency exit, so IMHO Yes.
She was reported as threatening to open an emergency exit while being restrained by CC. Neither did she ever attempt to enter the flight deck. This was a misunderstanding after the flight crew told ATC that the cabin was secure when updating the situation. |
How about ...
1) The person is blacklisted for life from Jet2. 2) The person is blacklisted by other airlines. 3) Enough negative publicity is generated to bite the person concerned in the bum and discourage others from following her line of conduct. |
3) Enough negative publicity is generated to bite the person concerned in the bum and discourage others from following her line of conduct. |
Originally Posted by Speed of Sound
(Post 10521778)
She wasn’t. She was reported as threatening to open an emergency exit while being restrained by CC. Even if she'd 'only' threatened to have a bomb that would also be fine, as well, would it? - 'cos it is SO much better than actually having one... or something that appears to be one.... or which could be considered to possibly be one as they screamed they had one?. Get real. The flight deck is told of a threat of violence, or terrorism, or opening a door, so of course they'll take appropriate action. Just for a minute imagine how it would appear in the crash investigation with all lives lost that the flight deck decided to carry on to destination after being clearly alerted to a direct threat to safety for all aboard, just because they hoped she was bluffing. What about with you or your loved ones on the plane? |
At the risk of letting the facts get in the way of a good story, perhaps it would be a good idea to wait and see what the young lady is actually charged with, if indeed she is charged at all.
I'd hazard a guess that it's not going to be with "endangering an aircraft". |
“Disobeying lawful commands...” should suffice? OMG, we’re flying Jet2 next week to LBA. ;) |
Originally Posted by Dannyboy39
(Post 10521471)
Does making someone bankrupt, landing someone with a huge bill plus a lifetime ban befit the crime? Besides, the costs were incurred due to her irresponsible actions. Who else should be made liable for her irresponsibility? How is giving her a bill for some (not even all) of the costs incurred by others due to her actions not befit the crime? As for a lifetime ban, can you imagine the outcry if she flew again with the same outcome? Old saying - fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. |
Branson will probably give her an all expenses paid trip to Vegas with Virgin! |
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