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blind pew 5th Jul 2019 05:57

BA cabin crew enjoying themselves
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...en-antics.html

Great to read of antics that we got up to in BEA in the 70s are still happening but to send them home to face the sack!
SHAME

568 5th Jul 2019 06:21


Originally Posted by blind pew (Post 10510002)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...en-antics.html

Great to read of antics that we got up to in BEA in the 70s are still happening but to send them home to face the sack!
SHAME

Indeed, times have changed in this PC charged world we live in today!Would like to know who "reported" the party crew?After 14 hours in a "steel tube" you gotta have some fun (within limits of course) so you can sleep, or not!

marchino61 5th Jul 2019 06:23


Originally Posted by blind pew (Post 10510002)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...en-antics.html

Great to read of antics that we got up to in BEA in the 70s are still happening but to send them home to face the sack!
SHAME

Double standards? Complain about drunk passengers, but not about crew running along a hotel corridor banging on everyone's doors and possibly waking them up?

Lantern10 5th Jul 2019 06:33

Nothing wrong with a decent orgy now and again.

Maninthebar 5th Jul 2019 07:24


Originally Posted by Lantern10 (Post 10510029)
Nothing wrong with a decent orgy now and again.

Decent? I've been doing it wrong all these years!

OvertHawk 5th Jul 2019 07:29


Originally Posted by 568 (Post 10510016)
Indeed, times have changed in this PC charged world we live in today!Would like to know who "reported" the party crew?After 14 hours in a "steel tube" you gotta have some fun (within limits of course) so you can sleep, or not!

After more than one cr@p nights sleep in airport hotels caused by idiots kicking off in corridors and banging on doors I have little sympathy.

There is indeed hypocrisy and double standards going on here. We rightly expect pax to respect the authority of the crew whilst onboard the aircraft and equally rightly ensure that any pax who is disruptive on non compliant is heavily sanctioned.

But when it some to the crew behaving like drunken louts and disrupting other people's rest (including other aircrew no doubt) it's "just letting off steam"? (Never mind that fact that the alcohol involved was "smuggled" off the aeroplane - is that another word for "stolen"?)

They're on the company's time and representatives of the company and the industry. It's entirely proper that this become a disciplinary issue.

I have no doubt that my comments will be met with choruses of "bet you're great fun downroute" etc - I am great fun when it's appropriate but I also know when to keep my head down and behave responsibly and would fully expect to be sanctioned / sacked if I stepped across the line.

OH

emeritus 5th Jul 2019 07:42

It is/was my view that you can have more fun in the room than in the corridor. " Nudge, nudge,wink, wink, say no more!"

Mr Mac 5th Jul 2019 07:55

Some time ago I walked into the lobby in the early hours of a certain hotel in Cape Town after a night out with colleagues, only to find two of BA finest Essex / Mancunian girls having, what can only be described as a Cat fight a top a grand Piano while I presume there Captain and FO were trying to get them off it. I would love to know how they squared that with the hotel, as there was some damage to the Piano which looked like it could be expensive to repair. Incidentally the Mancunian won on points in my and my colleagues estimation.
Regards
Mr Mac

a5in_the_sim 5th Jul 2019 07:56

There is no “right” or “wrong” only “getting caught”!?!?!

vascodegama 5th Jul 2019 08:12

I would say that they were lucky the local police were not involved; a sacking would be the least of their problems out there.

Planemike 5th Jul 2019 08:54

Certainly hope they do not loose their jobs.............

Gordomac 5th Jul 2019 09:13

BlindPew ; Agree. Fun time been toned down since the 70's though by the PC partypoop brigade. I was called in, only once, and advised to moderate but the Fleet Boss was also a Party-animal and we both just fell about larfing. Millions of recall but one springs to mind in BGR Maine where there was a bang on the door & a BA Captain, empty glass in hand, Bottle of whisky in the other and a tooth-brush in his night-shirt pocket exclaimed;" Won't get any sleep next to you lot tonight, so, I thought I would join you !" Marve !

Hotel Tango 5th Jul 2019 09:39

I agree with OvertHawk's post. One thing I just cannot tolerate are inconsiderate idiots who party and make a lot of noise in hotels in the middle of the night, whoever they may be! The sack? No, unless they do it again!

Repos 5th Jul 2019 11:02

Vandalism? Singapore? - Remember Michael Peter Fay?

On Track 5th Jul 2019 11:49

There is never any excuse for this sort of behaviour by ANYONE. And I might add that as a passenger I've always found BA to be a most unimpressive airline, with very poor cabin service. Will never fly with them again.

blind pew 5th Jul 2019 12:23

Hotels
 
Used to do a 14 hour day ending up in Chicago..as we checked in at mid day and the cabin only had 20 hours off duty there was no chance of a party. Hotel made us wait for 2 hours plus in a corridor before we got the out going crew rooms. Hotel always gave the FO a room adjacent to their hospitality room which partied until the early hours..add six hour time difference. So please don't just slag the crews off.
Our company hotel in Boston was even worse as the toilets were used as a gay playground.. stable doors on the cubicles with two pairs of trousers around ankles and a lot of groaning. Complained to front desk as loos open to public and children...tried 3 languages starting with switzerdeutsch before I realised they were part of the depraved circle.
Spare a thought for the girls in the 70s were sexual assault was part of the job description and accidental coffee pot spillage was the only remedy (along with the frequent crashes and tropical diseases).

racedo 5th Jul 2019 12:30

Off duty and not wearing company uniform then a paid suspension equal to the number of days before next flight and a warning not to get caught.

er340790 5th Jul 2019 16:45

If you all buy me a drink sometime, I MIGHT tell you what I saw a Gulf Air crew getting up to in a Hong Kong hotel back in 1989! :oh: :oh: :oh:

TFE731 5th Jul 2019 20:20


Originally Posted by er340790 (Post 10510543)
If you all buy me a drink sometime, I MIGHT tell you what I saw a Gulf Air crew getting up to in a Hong Kong hotel back in 1989! :oh: :oh: :oh:

My Dad was CP of Gulf Air in 1989, I’m intrigued to hear your story but I doubt I would be surprised.

golfyankeesierra 5th Jul 2019 22:06

Pictures (preferably video), or it didn’t happen!

FrequentSLF 6th Jul 2019 01:37

Is a no event... they were naked, not wearing any uniform, hence they could even sue the hotel for breaking their privacy.
BA should stay out of it, everybody has is own private life, might give them a reprimand, or someone is saying that everybody that is acting unruly in a pub or in a hotel when not in service should be sacked?

Meester proach 6th Jul 2019 03:24


Originally Posted by FrequentSLF (Post 10510865)
Is a no event... they were naked, not wearing any uniform, hence they could even sue the hotel for breaking their privacy.
BA should stay out of it, everybody has is own private life, might give them a reprimand, or someone is saying that everybody that is acting unruly in a pub or in a hotel when not in service should be sacked?


not the same at all, it’s fairly obvious who a crew are in a hotel and they still represent the company downroute - they are still at work.

i used to enjoy all this stuff 20 years ago, but woe betide anyone waking me up these days

568 6th Jul 2019 04:57


Originally Posted by OvertHawk (Post 10510068)
After more than one cr@p nights sleep in airport hotels caused by idiots kicking off in corridors and banging on doors I have little sympathy.

There is indeed hypocrisy and double standards going on here. We rightly expect pax to respect the authority of the crew whilst onboard the aircraft and equally rightly ensure that any pax who is disruptive on non compliant is heavily sanctioned.

But when it some to the crew behaving like drunken louts and disrupting other people's rest (including other aircrew no doubt) it's "just letting off steam"? (Never mind that fact that the alcohol involved was "smuggled" off the aeroplane - is that another word for "stolen"?)

They're on the company's time and representatives of the company and the industry. It's entirely proper that this become a disciplinary issue.

I have no doubt that my comments will be met with choruses of "bet you're great fun downroute" etc - I am great fun when it's appropriate but I also know when to keep my head down and behave responsibly and would fully expect to be sanctioned / sacked if I stepped across the line.

OH

Indeed, I agree with your comments which is why I stated "within limits".


There is a fine line between "fun" and being able to enjoy the evening without disrupting others.

crewmeal 6th Jul 2019 05:23


I MIGHT tell you what I saw a Gulf Air crew getting up to in a Hong Kong hotel back in 1989!
Back in my long haul days what went on down route stayed down route. But then we didn't have social media and other technology, we managed with Kodak Brownie cameras.

ThreeThreeMike 6th Jul 2019 05:38


Originally Posted by crewmeal (Post 10510922)
Back in my long haul days what went on down route stayed down route. But then we didn't have social media and other technology, we managed with Kodak Brownie cameras.


​​​​​​And even then, the chances were good the film processing lab wouldn't return the photos and bin them.

Blind Squirrel 6th Jul 2019 06:07


Spare a thought for the girls in the 70s were sexual assault was part of the job description and accidental coffee pot spillage was the only remedy...
I've heard some of those stories (from ex-PAWA cabin crew, not BA), and they are indeed appalling. Those may have been the good old days for the people who were dishing it out. Definitely not for those who were forced to take it.

Andy_S 6th Jul 2019 09:35


Originally Posted by FrequentSLF (Post 10510865)
BA should stay out of it, everybody has is own private life.........

Including the hotel guests who were trying to get some sleep.........

This crew were on BA business, staying in hotel accommodation paid for by BA. Damn right that BA took an interest.

Planemike 6th Jul 2019 10:21


Originally Posted by Andy_S (Post 10511086)
Including the hotel guests who were trying to get some sleep.........

This crew were on BA business, staying in hotel accommodation paid for by BA. Damn right that BA took an interest.

Lay off them.........just a bit of fun. Don't be such a misery guts.

As I said in an earlier message I trust they do not lose their employment.

ManaAdaSystem 6th Jul 2019 10:27

Naked BA longhaul crew? I get some very disturbing pictures in my head!

They should claim insanity by fatigue and sue the company.

777boyo 6th Jul 2019 10:28

In 1989, every layover in Gulf Air was a party........the beach and surrounding bushes in AUH Gulf Hotel only came to life about 0200 local:). Rababa - ah, happy days!!

TFE731 - are you M or S?

7B

campbeex 6th Jul 2019 11:08


Originally Posted by Planemike (Post 10511126)
As I said in an earlier message I trust they do not loose their employment.

"lose", not "loose".


Hotel Tango 6th Jul 2019 11:32


Lay off them.........just a bit of fun. Don't be such a misery guts.
Easy for you to say when you're not in a room next to theirs, trying to get some sleep before your 5AM (or earlier) call!

wondrousbitofrough 6th Jul 2019 11:37


Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem (Post 10511131)
Naked BA longhaul crew? I get some very disturbing pictures in my head!

They should claim insanity by fatigue and sue the company.


The age of some of them, dementia, surely:cool:

Planemike 6th Jul 2019 11:37


Originally Posted by Hotel Tango (Post 10511180)
Easy for you to say when you're not in a room next to theirs, trying to get some sleep before your 5AM (or earlier) call!

Agreed...........!!

Final 3 Greens 6th Jul 2019 12:20


Originally Posted by FrequentSLF (Post 10510865)
Is a no event... they were naked, not wearing any uniform, hence they could even sue the hotel for breaking their privacy.
BA should stay out of it, everybody has is own private life, might give them a reprimand, or someone is saying that everybody that is acting unruly in a pub or in a hotel when not in service should be sacked?

I don't know how employment works in Alabama, but in England and Wales, gross misconduct is a dismissable offence and running down a hotel corridor, naked, certainly falls under that category. You don't need to be in uniform, if you are representing your company (and checking in as staff would likely meet that test), then it is expected that the behaviour would be appropriate.

What you do, discreetly, is of course your own business, so long as it does not break any laws.

Kerosene Kraut 6th Jul 2019 12:22

Other people got away with it before and that's okay to me. Young people just like to party.

Planemike 6th Jul 2019 13:04


Originally Posted by Final 3 Greens (Post 10511202)
I don't know how employment works in Alabama, but in England and Wales, gross misconduct is a dismissable offence and running down a hotel corridor, naked, certainly falls under that category. You don't need to be in uniform, if you are representing your company (and checking in as staff would likely meet that test), then it is expected that the behaviour would be appropriate.

What you do, discreetly, is of course your own business, so long as it does not break any laws.

Bet you are a real "live wire" at a party........!!! Enjoy life, have some fun ... !!


IcePack 6th Jul 2019 13:12

Funny old world. When their is a room party everyone gets upset due noise, with threats of dismissal. When the hotel has a function with lots of noise. That is OK. Well as far as airline management are concerned.
:)

swh 6th Jul 2019 13:38

“Three British Airways cabin crew face the sack”, is that some new development in the game where the three were sitting on the floor while another player walks by with bollocks at eye height ?

bill fly 6th Jul 2019 14:05

Getting ripe for Jet Blast here...


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