Electra wheels up in Canada
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That's no way to treat an old lady. Good luck getting replacement props Sadly it will probably be written off.
A beautiful aircraft to fly. Emeritus |
Originally Posted by emeritus
(Post 10507708)
That's no way to treat an old lady. Good luck getting replacement props Sadly it will probably be written off.
A beautiful aircraft to fly. Emeritus |
They did .. took a couple of sets of blades, an engine and some flap bits - took about 3 months.
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I remember Channel Express had a similar incident in SNN years ago.
The aircraft was written off. |
Webby737.
Just to correct your post. The Electra in Shannon (N285F) was operated by Renown Aviation of Miami and was on wet lease to Channel Express. It did have Channel Express on the side but was crewed by Americans. The crew forgot to lower the landing gear and realised in the flare. They went around but three props hit the runway causing #3 engine to separate, #4 eng to fail completely and #2 to produce reduced power due to bent blades and damaged controls. They made it round the circuit and landed with the gear down. The aircraft was beyond economic repair and was broken up. |
Originally Posted by dixi188
(Post 10507892)
Webby737.
Just to correct your post. The Electra in Shannon (N285F) was operated by Renown Aviation of Miami and was on wet lease to Channel Express. It did have Channel Express on the side but was crewed by Americans. The crew forgot to lower the landing gear and realised in the flare. They went around but three props hit the runway causing #3 engine to separate, #4 eng to fail completely and #2 to produce reduced power due to bent blades and damaged controls. They made it round the circuit and landed with the gear down. The aircraft was beyond economic repair and was broken up. |
Pretty sure that pilot, Prefkar, was the guy who featured in Ice Pilots with Buffalo Airways 4 or 5 years ago. I forget, but I don't think things worked out with Buffalo Joe...
Still, any landing you can walk away from! :ok: |
Originally Posted by dixi188
(Post 10507892)
Webby737.
Just to correct your post. The Electra in Shannon (N285F) was operated by Renown Aviation of Miami and was on wet lease to Channel Express. It did have Channel Express on the side but was crewed by Americans. The crew forgot to lower the landing gear and realised in the flare. They went around but three props hit the runway causing #3 engine to separate, #4 eng to fail completely and #2 to produce reduced power due to bent blades and damaged controls. They made it round the circuit and landed with the gear down. The aircraft was beyond economic repair and was broken up. I wasn't aware the aircraft was wet leased. The rest was just a vague memory it was quite a few years ago, I remember watching the aircraft being broken up. |
Video courtesy of YouTube
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As to why execute a go round when you have already made contact, that is another question. I guess part of it is just a startle reflex. Logically it makes no sense to go round when you have hit the ground and damaged the plane. Reminds me of the AC DC-8 that bounced very hard at Toronto and went around. That did not end well. CVR transcript gave me chills. 20driver |
Go around or try to un bounce?
Well then we had the Superjet at Moscow which tried to land from a bounce - with disastrous result. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t, so - If it doesn’t look good go around before the bounce |
Originally Posted by 20driver
(Post 10511338)
Reading about the accident - pretty amazing that they made it back around with that much damage and in IMC.
As to why execute a go round when you have already made contact, that is another question. I guess part of it is just a startle reflex. Logically it makes no sense to go round when you have hit the ground and damaged the plane. Reminds me of the AC DC-8 that bounced very hard at Toronto and went around. That did not end well. CVR transcript gave me chills. 20driver |
Originally Posted by 20driver
(Post 10511338)
Reminds me of the AC DC-8 that bounced very hard at Toronto and went around. That did not end well. CVR transcript gave me chills.
20driver |
Does anyone know the cause of the Buffalo Electra wheels up landing? I watched the program and was interested as the Electra was the first modern transport aircraft I worked on at the beginning of my aviation career.
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Old Lady
Strangely enough there IS a connection back to Channel Express. This aircraft was the last Electra flying with Channel (as G-CEXS) when they morphed into Jet2. My last flight before retirement was to deliver her to Red Deer, Calgary when Channel sold her to Air Spray. Always lovely to fly; I had many happy hours with her. I suspect this is now the end of a gracious old lady. What an undignified position to end up in!
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Originally Posted by CV880
(Post 10512213)
Does anyone know the cause of the Buffalo Electra wheels up landing? I watched the program and was interested as the Electra was the first modern transport aircraft I worked on at the beginning of my aviation career.
BK |
Originally Posted by Bksmithca
(Post 10512315)
CV880. If my memory is still solid a mechanic left a hammer in the land gear area and it jammed the gear when they retracted it after takeoff.
BK Edited, found the hammer incident and the Electra one: - On 9 November 2012, BFL509, a Curtiss C-46A (C-GTXW), landed at Yellowknife Airport and when it rolled to the runway 16/34 intersection, the left main landing gear collapsed. The aircraft then came to rest on the left wing and suffered substantial damage. The aircraft was repaired and returned to service. The cause of the accident was that a hammer, lodged between the inboard drag strut and sliding member, caused the landing gear to collapse. On 5 March 2012, BFL1105, a Lockheed L-188A Electra (C-FBAQ), landed at the Yellowknife Airport, but was unable to extend the right main landing gear. The aircraft landed on the left and nose gear and caused substantial damage to the number three and four propellers and wing. The five occupants on board were uninjured |
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