Electra wheels up in Canada
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Webby737.
Just to correct your post.
The Electra in Shannon (N285F) was operated by Renown Aviation of Miami and was on wet lease to Channel Express. It did have Channel Express on the side but was crewed by Americans.
The crew forgot to lower the landing gear and realised in the flare. They went around but three props hit the runway causing #3 engine to separate, #4 eng to fail completely and #2 to produce reduced power due to bent blades and damaged controls. They made it round the circuit and landed with the gear down. The aircraft was beyond economic repair and was broken up.
Just to correct your post.
The Electra in Shannon (N285F) was operated by Renown Aviation of Miami and was on wet lease to Channel Express. It did have Channel Express on the side but was crewed by Americans.
The crew forgot to lower the landing gear and realised in the flare. They went around but three props hit the runway causing #3 engine to separate, #4 eng to fail completely and #2 to produce reduced power due to bent blades and damaged controls. They made it round the circuit and landed with the gear down. The aircraft was beyond economic repair and was broken up.
Webby737.
Just to correct your post.
The Electra in Shannon (N285F) was operated by Renown Aviation of Miami and was on wet lease to Channel Express. It did have Channel Express on the side but was crewed by Americans.
The crew forgot to lower the landing gear and realised in the flare. They went around but three props hit the runway causing #3 engine to separate, #4 eng to fail completely and #2 to produce reduced power due to bent blades and damaged controls. They made it round the circuit and landed with the gear down. The aircraft was beyond economic repair and was broken up.
Just to correct your post.
The Electra in Shannon (N285F) was operated by Renown Aviation of Miami and was on wet lease to Channel Express. It did have Channel Express on the side but was crewed by Americans.
The crew forgot to lower the landing gear and realised in the flare. They went around but three props hit the runway causing #3 engine to separate, #4 eng to fail completely and #2 to produce reduced power due to bent blades and damaged controls. They made it round the circuit and landed with the gear down. The aircraft was beyond economic repair and was broken up.
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Pretty sure that pilot, Prefkar, was the guy who featured in Ice Pilots with Buffalo Airways 4 or 5 years ago. I forget, but I don't think things worked out with Buffalo Joe...
Still, any landing you can walk away from!
Still, any landing you can walk away from!

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Webby737.
Just to correct your post.
The Electra in Shannon (N285F) was operated by Renown Aviation of Miami and was on wet lease to Channel Express. It did have Channel Express on the side but was crewed by Americans.
The crew forgot to lower the landing gear and realised in the flare. They went around but three props hit the runway causing #3 engine to separate, #4 eng to fail completely and #2 to produce reduced power due to bent blades and damaged controls. They made it round the circuit and landed with the gear down. The aircraft was beyond economic repair and was broken up.
Just to correct your post.
The Electra in Shannon (N285F) was operated by Renown Aviation of Miami and was on wet lease to Channel Express. It did have Channel Express on the side but was crewed by Americans.
The crew forgot to lower the landing gear and realised in the flare. They went around but three props hit the runway causing #3 engine to separate, #4 eng to fail completely and #2 to produce reduced power due to bent blades and damaged controls. They made it round the circuit and landed with the gear down. The aircraft was beyond economic repair and was broken up.
I wasn't aware the aircraft was wet leased.
The rest was just a vague memory it was quite a few years ago, I remember watching the aircraft being broken up.
As to why execute a go round when you have already made contact, that is another question. I guess part of it is just a startle reflex. Logically it makes no sense to go round when you have hit the ground and damaged the plane. Reminds me of the AC DC-8 that bounced very hard at Toronto and went around. That did not end well. CVR transcript gave me chills.
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Go around or try to un bounce?
Well then we had the Superjet at Moscow which tried to land from a bounce - with disastrous result.
Damned if you do and damned if you don’t, so - If it doesn’t look good go around before the bounce
Damned if you do and damned if you don’t, so - If it doesn’t look good go around before the bounce
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Reading about the accident - pretty amazing that they made it back around with that much damage and in IMC.
As to why execute a go round when you have already made contact, that is another question. I guess part of it is just a startle reflex. Logically it makes no sense to go round when you have hit the ground and damaged the plane. Reminds me of the AC DC-8 that bounced very hard at Toronto and went around. That did not end well. CVR transcript gave me chills.
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As to why execute a go round when you have already made contact, that is another question. I guess part of it is just a startle reflex. Logically it makes no sense to go round when you have hit the ground and damaged the plane. Reminds me of the AC DC-8 that bounced very hard at Toronto and went around. That did not end well. CVR transcript gave me chills.
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Does anyone know the cause of the Buffalo Electra wheels up landing? I watched the program and was interested as the Electra was the first modern transport aircraft I worked on at the beginning of my aviation career.
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Strangely enough there IS a connection back to Channel Express. This aircraft was the last Electra flying with Channel (as G-CEXS) when they morphed into Jet2. My last flight before retirement was to deliver her to Red Deer, Calgary when Channel sold her to Air Spray. Always lovely to fly; I had many happy hours with her. I suspect this is now the end of a gracious old lady. What an undignified position to end up in!
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Edited, found the hammer incident and the Electra one: -
On 9 November 2012, BFL509, a Curtiss C-46A (C-GTXW), landed at Yellowknife Airport and when it rolled to the runway 16/34 intersection, the left main landing gear collapsed. The aircraft then came to rest on the left wing and suffered substantial damage. The aircraft was repaired and returned to service. The cause of the accident was that a hammer, lodged between the inboard drag strut and sliding member, caused the landing gear to collapse.
On 5 March 2012, BFL1105, a Lockheed L-188A Electra (C-FBAQ), landed at the Yellowknife Airport, but was unable to extend the right main landing gear. The aircraft landed on the left and nose gear and caused substantial damage to the number three and four propellers and wing. The five occupants on board were uninjured