Thanks. I hear from expat friend on the inside, that most of the foreign pilot project team (said to be thoroughly professional and honest), have left for the CAAC land. As well I am almost certain to have seen one of their interview panel pilots commanding a red-tail 330.
One of the reasons shared was that for mainline AFL it actually is Moscow and that might be it. Somewhat unusual for the market behemoth in such a vast land. |
Originally Posted by UltraFan
(Post 10519815)
The only example of a newly formed base that I know of is S7's hub in IKT.
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Video is now available showing it coming to a stop and the evacuation. Couldn't find the actual video, so Click HERE for a news site that's hosting it.
50 seconds from sliding to a stop until one ofthe fire appliances is suppressing the fire isn't a bad response time, either... |
Actual video of the evacuation, just released from the russian agency in charge of the investigation. |
Originally Posted by KRviator
(Post 10751451)
50 seconds from sliding to a stop until one ofthe fire appliances is suppressing the fire isn't a bad response time, either...
The timestamp at the bottom shows that a good 3 mins later they are spraying, but not when that started. |
Originally Posted by KRviator
(Post 10751451)
Video is now available showing it coming to a stop and the evacuation. Couldn't find the actual video, so Click HERE for a news site that's hosting it.
50 seconds from sliding to a stop until one ofthe fire appliances is suppressing the fire isn't a bad response time, either... |
At 52 seconds in to the video where the jump is, I can see the cockpit escape windows go from closed to open and exhausting smoke. I can only assume the pilots escaped from the cockpit windows.
I'm not aircrew and have no idea how long it would take to open the window, clime out and slide down the rope thingy times two. This might give an rough additional time to add into the video. |
Originally Posted by JCviggen
(Post 10751696)
Clearly there is a big time jump in the video, impossible to say how much longer it took but quite a bit as all the people walking away from the AC are suddenly gone.
The timestamp at the bottom shows that a good 3 mins later they are spraying, but not when that started. |
Is the video at 2.46 indicating that the throttles were at full power?
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The person that scrambled up the slide saved a few extra lives. That was truly heroic..
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Originally Posted by paperHanger
(Post 10463742)
Shrug ... with flames coming out of the back, time to get it down is all that counts really, we train for a Vne descent, or full flaps and Vso depending on distance to run. Given that it appears the gear fell off, any time spent checking gear down was wasted ... still, I wasn't there, looks like they did a decent job.
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I wonder what the hell is burning back there like that ,thank God that many got out alive. I'm still not sure from the thread, as far as how many people perished
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Originally Posted by Pugilistic Animus
(Post 10753921)
I wonder what the hell is burning back there like that ,thank God that many got out alive. I'm still not sure from the thread, as far as how many people perished
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10753938)
See link 9 posts above yours.
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In the news today (Google Translate)
The Prosecutor General’s Office sent a criminal case to the court about a plane crash at Moscow Sheremetyevo Airport. On May 5, 2019, the Aeroflot Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft landed urgently a few minutes after take-off and caught fire. Killed 41 people. The Prosecutor General's Office called the aircraft commander, pilot Denis Evdokimov guilty of the tragedy, the cause of the crash was "his failure to comply with the aircraft operation procedures during landing." |
Originally Posted by Paul C
(Post 10752580)
Is the video at 2.46 indicating that the throttles were at full power?
I think you're on to something there. Looking at the video from the point that the aircraft comes to rest until about 52 seconds, it appears that the No.2 engine (can't really see behind No.1) is running at some thrust setting way above idle. Note how the flames on the ground appear to be "fanned" and the smoke plume from that area goes well aft of the empennage before moving left to right along with the rest of the flame and smoke. It appears that there is a pretty good breeze blowing from left to right of the video, which makes sense as airplane was landing into the wind (right to left). Cheers, Grog |
Hi capngrog
I remember watching the original videos of it crashing and thinking that it just kept on going and going without slowing down and as you point out the flames appear to be well and truly fanned along the ground. Cheers Paul |
Originally Posted by capngrog
(Post 10757030)
Paul C;
I think you're on to something there. Looking at the video from the point that the aircraft comes to rest until about 52 seconds, it appears that the No.2 engine (can't really see behind No.1) is running at some thrust setting way above idle. Note how the flames on the ground appear to be "fanned" and the smoke plume from that area goes well aft of the empennage before moving left to right along with the rest of the flame and smoke. It appears that there is a pretty good breeze blowing from left to right of the video, which makes sense as airplane was landing into the wind (right to left). Cheers, Grog Throttles fully advanced, spoilers retracted and flaps 3. I wonder if that is normal landing flap with full flap for crosswind or short field landings or if full flap is normal landing and flaps 3 for take off? If the latter he appears to be in a go around configuration before disaster struck. or perhaps they just didn't get to the flaps. Here's a serviceable Superjet 100 https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....38528560cb.jpg here's a not so serviceable Superjet 100. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bac907e809.jpg |
Only thing worse than a botched landing is a botched go-around...
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Originally Posted by Lord Farringdon
(Post 10761068)
I wonder if that is normal landing flap with full flap for crosswind or short field landings or if full flap is normal landing and flaps 3 for take off? If the latter he appears to be in a go around configuration before disaster struck. or perhaps they just didn't get to the flaps.
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